Ad man Ansell unveils 'Treatygate' and declares war on racial favouritism
Controversial advertising guru John Ansell is whipping up a nationwide campaign dubbed "Treatygate" to stop New Zealand going down the path of racial separatism.
He told NBR ONLINE he hopes to raise $2 million for television and newspaper advertisements promoting racial equality and the creation of a colour-blind state.
The campaign will be a precursor to a proposed citizens initiated referendum at the next general election, posing the question: do you want a colour-blind nation with one law for all and free from racial favouritism of any kind?
“What I’m aiming to do is to destroy the Treaty grievance industry, which is crooked, as well as the appeasement industry which has been propping it up.
“The appeasement industry is full of people who Lenin would describe as 'useful idiots'.”
Mr Ansell, who masterminded race-based election campaigns for National and ACT and coined the phrase “iwi or kiwi,” says there are two types of Maori – grievers and achievers.
“One of the aims of my campaign is to get the Maori achievers to rise up against the grievers and show us that they are more numerous.
“I suspect there are more achievers than grievers, having talked to a number of people who I thought were on the grievers side.
“They actually quietly confide to me that they can’t stand the Hone Harawiras of this world and they are sick and tired of being represented by these people.”
Mr Ansell claims elitist elements in parliament, the judiciary, academia and the media are guilty of covering up New Zealand’s true history and assisting “griever Maoris” to extort money from taxpayers.
“This country is being divided increasingly by the griever Maori with the compliance of the cowardly non- Maori, who believe for the sake of a quiet life it’s better to surrender their country than stick up for it.
“We should be telling the grievers to show a bit more gratitude and get their hands back in their pockets and stop expecting money from other people."
Mr Ansell says his campaign is the result of having worked for many politicians over the years who have “wimped out on this issue”.
“One of our endearing qualities is that we like to be nice to everyone. But you can’t be nice to crooks, as Neville Chamberlain found out. He was nice to a crook and look where it got him.
“We have a parliamentary chamber full of Chamberlains and have had for some decades.”
Given his past electioneering experiences, Mr Ansell anticipates problems getting his message across to New Zealanders.
“The Dominion Post wouldn’t even run an ad containing 40 separate statements of provable fact for ACT, the headline of which was “Fed Up With Pandering To Maori Radicals.”
“Bernadette Courtney, the editor, refused to run that, which raises the question of what sort of democracy do we live in really?
“If she and others refuse to run my ads we’ll put them somewhere else. We’ll put them on posters around town, or drop them from planes, put them in letterboxes – and we’ll include exposes of those editors who refuse to run them.
“We’ll do what has to be done to get the message out to the public for the first time in their lives."
Despite such hurdles, Mr Ansell is confident of getting 80% of New Zealanders to support his call for a colour-blind state, devoid of the Waitangi Tribunal, separate Maori seats and Te Puni Kokiri.
“I think it will cause the National and Labour parties, who have basically run this country as an undemocratic state on this subject for the last 40 years, to have to abide by the will of the people.
“Where else in the world is the winner of a war of rebellion paying reparations to the descendants of the losers 150 years later?
“It’s absolute nonsense, but this sort of stuff is never talked about.”
So just where is the $2 million going to come from which Mr Ansell needs to fund his campaign?
It is a question he’s a little coy about, but he admits he has been in touch with multimillionaire ACT backer Louis Crimp, an outspoken critic of special treatment for Maori.
“I’m going to keep details about all donations confidential until the donors give me permission.
“I think New Zealanders in general are so fed up that they will give generously and I’ve already got quite a few donations.
“What I’m doing is probably not the sort of thing you do if you’re planning on having a long life but I want to terrify the government.”
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Ansell is just being PC.
Ansell's a nutjob as is Crimp, only an idiot would support that toxic brand
I haven't been able to eat today yet, because I'm stuck in this chair answering calls of support from idiots :-).
)nly an idiot would do that.
Wrong - the story was almost entirely based on an interview with Mr Ansell.
Is this a response to a deleted comment?
Thank god someone else is also waking up.
Ansell is 100% right.
Maori have NO seperate rights they are either NZ’ers or not if not then they can get back in there canoe’s and bugger off to where they came from like any other immigrant to this country. They are not indigenous people even by the UN biased outline of what constitutes indigenous.
When will they and this Gvmt wake up, we are all in deep sh*t, we don’t need one small group of immigrants making demands on the country for their own self interest and as has been proven not even for the interest of there “own” people most of whom still sponge off the state. If Maori companies – who mostly pay no tax’s and which have amassed so much wealth (to the determent of all NZ’ers) have that wealth divided amongst the small number of people calling themselves Maori then we should cut off all Maori beneficiaries as they are truly over the amount allowed for to draw any benefits.
Good on you Ansell I donate to your cause!
NBR tell us were to send it please.
Right here:
Bank account 12-3141-0106590-01
Particulars: Colourblind NZ
Reference: Your name
Thanks!
I think instead you need to be told where to stick it.
We need something to get out of this passive funk....Now's the time with money too tight to splash it on lawyers and liars.
or spurious ad campaigns.
Good on you John! It's about time someone did this. Best wishes for a successful campaign to get rid of this ridiculous environment we live in.
Eh? The environment? I thought we were bashing Maori?
John Ansell is man enough to take on an issue that no politician or party is prepared to take on for fear of being branded racist when it is the opposite. Good on you John.
Thanks Kevin - and others.
Our fathers and their fathers (including the fine men of the Maori battalion) fought and died for this country.
Are we so gutless that we are prepared to surrender that country for fear of being called a nasty name (by actual racists)?
Will the protestors who marched against apartheid in a foreign land stand idly by as the same noxious creed takes root in their own?
I challenge all media to poll their readers on whether they want New Zealand to be a Colourblind State free of all forms of racial favouritism.
I challenge Achiever Maori (those who just want to be treated as equal New Zealanders) to tell their Griever Maori cousins that they don't speak for them.
Once we can prove that Achiever Maori outnumber Griever Maori then the mana of the Mana and Maori Parties will evaporate.
That will rehabilitate the image of Maori among their fellow New Zealanders,
And that, I hope, will be a major by-product of this campaign.
God how patronising.
What's stopping Mr Ansell from contesting an election, getting elected as an MP, and laying this issue before Parliament in a democratic manner? The grievers? The achievers? Or is he not quite sure about that support from 80% of New Zealanders?
One MP with PoV is no use, especially when there are dozens dependent on sweeping the obvious under the carpet.
It was of course a travesty that the Electoral Commission was barred from commenting on the Maori seats. That simply shows the need for a campaign like this - as does the Waitangi Tribunal charade around state asset sales, and the Tribunal's farcical pretence to being an independent arbiter rather than a lobbyist.
What's wrong with him taking a strong stance? Are you suggesting that all Maori protests should cease as well and all issues be put to the electorate only?
You don't have to look further than Maori TV to know that the gravy train is now a champagne and caviar limousine ride for all involved in the treaty and separatism process. There is a dedicated Maori channel (costing taxpayers tens of millions each year) but we still have to put up with Maori programing on TV1 as well!!!!!!! What's the sense and logic in that?
Oh - it's all about Maoris (and their hanger-on lawyers, PR consultants etc) sweating taxpayers and non-Maori New Zealanders for everything they can get, with no rational justification.
Talking about state-funded Maori TV, I've just been interviewed for tonight's Te Karere by Tame Iti's Tuhoe cousin Tini Molyneux.
Boy was she mad at me - especially when I pulled out an enlarged photo of the 1820 dictionary meaning of 'taonga' ('property procured by the spear') and asked her to read it.
I would be very surprised to see that in the final cut tonight (on One).
Ain't that a surprise?
We are talking here about a race which only celebrates success on the sports field and in exacting violence as a cultural norm.
If they had their way, they would still be spearing everyone else to get what they want but are not prepared to work for.
As opposed to another race that seems to have historically celebrated success by conquering and colonising other countries and also lately by white collar crime?
I love the way Maori try to rewrite history. Last person that tried that was a famous WW2 German, was it not?
More likely it's because he knows the one sure way of not achieving something you want to happen is to get elected as a backbench MP. And the alternative - going directly to the electorate and avoiding political parties - is hardly undemocratic , whether one agrees with his cause or not.
With 80% of support from New Zealanders, he should be able to replace the current composition of Parliament and have enough MPs to change the laws in favour of his agenda. Or was that reference to 80% just an adman's sales pitch?
80% was my prediction of how many would support a Colourblind State in a referendum. My evidence:
90% supported Don Brash's Orewa speech (after the left-wing media castigated it).
81% of 40,000 Close Up viewers paid money to text No to the Question: "Do Maori have a special place in NZ?"
79% of Nelson voters voted No to Maori wards.
81% of Waikato voters voted No to Maori wards.
53% of Wairoa voters voted No to Maori wards - and 46% of the population are Maori.
With the support of 80% of New Zealanders, it should be a cakewalk to stride into the next election with 120 candidates, get at least 80 MPs, change the laws, and so on and so forth. Unless the polls cited flatter to deceive?
And don't forget the 106% of "right thinking citizens".
You forgot the 1995 poll where over 90% agreed with Stuart C Scotts book Travesty at Waitangi.
90% support for brash orewa speech? think not. dont know much about ansell but i'll bet he gnaws at the insides of his cheek.
He won't contest an election because John will lose, badly. Many equally minded racists will rally at first but will go off tangent, attacking anyone not "color blind", forcing middle New Zealand to distance itself from the "other extreme view". Hate politics is the same as racist ads. I don't mind - we need more kai for the hangi and John might be a bit skinny but he'll go nice with some kumara mwahahaha!
Interesting comment there anonymous.
So it is racist to be colour blind!
I prefer to lay it before the public in a democratic manner, and force the Chamber of Chamberlains to obey.
Speak truth to power, well done John. Good day for democracy.
Thanks for your input professor.
tihihi
About time someone spoke about against parasites and leeches.
Yeah and those bloody racists.
Can we do something about fleas and wasps? I don't have much trouble with leeches.
How much of the proposed $2m is going into John's pocket for his guru genius?
As much as I need to pay the bills. The vast majority will go on ads.
Walking away from political party contracts has left me rather poor, but I am not driven by money.
I am sure this will be ridiculed or not even mentioned in the news.
You're reading it here.
You can also read about it on Scoop, in the Southland Times, on the TV3 website, in Critic, on Kiwiblog, hear it on Mountainside FM, and see it on TV One's Te Karere.
Not bad for the first day.
It certainly deserves to be.
Maori Radicals! Yeah they cut down a pine tree in an Auckland park eighteen years ago! Pure terrorism!
"to stop New Zealand going down the path of racial separatism."
Bollox. the intent is the exact opposite from the man who devised the devisive Kiwi/Iwi campaign.
There are many things holding back New Zealand. Blaming the poor and Maori is very easy.... and totally stupid.
The poor and Maori have nothing to do with the nonsense that has been fleecing the taxpayer via legal aid, the Waitangi Tribunal and courts. It has everything to do with the professional Treaty industry.
Thank you John.
We pray to be living in a racist-free country one day.
Our family will be donating.
And I'm praying to live in a religion free country some day.
Thank you Todd and family.
Consider that deep in the North Island forests lies a dark secret that maori were not the settlers of New Zealand ,
Chris Carter was gayley frolicking in the forest but would not allow the media to see what he was shown along with Phillida Bunkle who also buried the truth when shown first hand .
ABSOLUTE TRUTH IN THE FORM OF STRUCTURE THAT PREDATED MAORI.
I trust that Mr Ansell may be able to bring this Misfeasance of Justice by Labour of hiding factual heritage by planting pine trees over it to the attention of the media .
It would stand him high on the Podium
And Helen Clark put a 65 year moratorium on the findings of that particular piece of evidence. I've seen the photos. Can't wait to go see it personally later this year. Looks like a fascinating place!
Can you provide any more detail on this or post the photos somewhere?
Dear god - here they come.............
Saw a spaceship on Mt Wellington the other day too.
Didn't Peter Jackson recently do a 3 part documentary about how the Hobbits settled NZ first before the Maori?
The Chinese predated Maori to arrive in New Zealand
Dear god.....shoot me now.
John Ansell must be a shoe-in for the "2012 cheeky darkie award"
I challenge you to go through every comment I have ever made online and find one example of racist abuse.
You won't, because I don't do that.
(If you want to know what a racist abuse is, ask H. Harawira or any number of his fellow Grievers.)
It will be revealing when everyone focuses on the problems (or perceived problems) and avoids the inevitable and usual personal put-downs. As is said on Ansell's blog and elsewhere: those that cry, "racist, xenophobe, hate-monger," etc., really have nothing to say, at all. Their only claim to infamy is to try and shout down any reasonable discussion. Real facts and figures have no place in their narrow paradigm.
Well done, NBR, for running the story, where others have feared to shed (any light).
Unlike you?
I totally support this initiative. NZ has been exhausting itself for years with this circus - it has been divisive and a major distraction to the nations progress. One country, one people.
That's right - Aoteoroa and we're all Maori now.
You have got to be dreaming
Get it right, it's Alfred E Neuman.
Yeah, I'm MAD as hell, with all the pandering Maori gets. Thinks, everyone whose working owe them a living, while the only effort they make is to go to the local WINZ office.
You certainly are an expert on MAD - both the magazine and your mental state apparently.
This is an idea whose time has come. The good thinking citizens will rise up against the tyranny of the racist lawyers politicans and other assorted hangers on all with their faces firmly in the trough and sucking off the tax payers.
Time to brand these people and their supporters traitors.
Go JA How about a naming and shaming excerise of those who profit from the Treaty Industry. Lets see how many tens of millions are scammed by these low lifes
Phew - does it get hot for you wearing that pillowcase over your head?
Naming and shaming - that's the plan, Anon. My logo is a head with a red eye patch.
That red eye patch will be applied to all those who have defrauded their fellow citizens of the truth.
You can see what I mean if you scroll down my website: www.johnansell.wordpress.com.
I think you have breached Crusader copyright. Be careful as their fans are probably even more rabid than you.
Hmm good point, maybe he should change the red eye patch to a Red Neck Patch.
"... Mr Ansell is confident of getting 80% of New Zealanders to support his call for a colour-blind state, devoid of the Waitangi Tribunal, separate Maori seats and Te Puni Kokiri"
I'd say he's got at least 80% already. The true test however, will be getting them to part with their money, which is a different matter and will be a lot harder to achieve. Nevertheless, I strongly support Mr Ansell and what he is trying to achieve for this country. Ironically, the majority of Maori also support a colour-blind state. Currently, NZ has one of the most dangerous and un-elected M’sOP, enabling this issue on behalf of the Maori elite. Finlayson and his predecessor (Doug Graham), have probably done more to damage race relations in this country, than any other living individual. They are both lawyers and have generated $millions in fees for the legal fraternity, at the prime cost of mainstream NZ’rs, whom have gained nothing from the Treaty Industry. These two arrogant, self-serving individuals have set up a gravy train that has not only strained our economy and race relations, it will continue to enrich the legal profession for hundreds of years to come. To add insult to injury, is some of NZ’s factual history regarding Maori, been expunged from learning institutions and substituted with more sanitised and ‘contemporary versions’ of historical account. When I was at school, we learn’t what atrocities the savages (Maori) committed upon one another and how, on occasions, they would even eat their own offspring.
Of course, we have all come along way since those days, haven’t we…..???
I must say that sheet you wear at night is quite slimming.
Thanks Paul M.
The Likes and Dislikes here tend to support the 80% theory.Finlayson, Key and co. should be very afraid.
Go John - you rock!
Sadly one of the most intellectual contributions so far for the affirmative.
Still, at least we haven't had "right thinking new zealanders" yet.
It is difficult to see how anyone would object to having a colour blind state?
Great idea! I'm with you my brother - let's have open slather for all my chinese friends to come to nz in unlimited numbers. After all why would anyone have an issue if white people eventually became a minority here?
I'd have no issue with more Chinese, Anon - as long as they're the ethical variety (Taiwanese preferred).
I think our recent Asian immigrants from Taiwan, Malaysia, India etc. enrich our society with personal and work habits that we - and Griever Maori in particular - would do well to emulate.
Don't forget us Griever Maori were originally from Taiwan too. Must have those same good work habits.
Hate to nitpick, but they weren't Chinese, but the indigenous Taiwanese.
(That's real indigenous - as in 'came from there' - not your phony indigenous - as in 'sailed there from the other side of the Pacific just before the Europeans'.)
But certainly Griever Maori could learn a great deal about self-reliance from the Taiwanese Chinese.
"phony indigenous - as in 'sailed there from the other side of the Pacific just before the Europeans'. "
There you have it folks, the comment illustrates perfectly the real feeling JA and his ilk have toward maori, the indigenous people of NZ, i.e. they deny it and would like to deny maori any rights that status might afford them.
Or could it be that JA is yearning for a little excitement? After having created some commotion with iwi/kiwi, perhaps he is feeling the need for more of his share of the spotlight. Either way, labels for JA and Co. including redneck and ignoramus, are legitimate.
You want the good news? There are only 157,000 Maori in Auckland according to the Herald this morning. There are way more Asians. NZ is fast becoming and Asian country. And when Asians get in power, trust me, Maori nonsense will be out the door. The Maori should be very grateful that a bunch of woosy Poms colonised NZ. If it had been the Chinese or the French, we would not be having this discusion - there would be no Maori left.
As a Maori businessman I can state that its all this politically correct cr*p makes me sick and will kill this country. Lets not forget that the Europeans came to NZ and introduced us to technology (muskets) and trading (flax, whales, seals, Kauri spars, Kauri gum etc) to a new the global world at a time we were running round in the bush beating each other to death with carved sticks and bits of stone and fighting over summer hunting grounds.
Unfortunately the new form of trade for some of the educated Maori and their grievance mates is emotional blackmail - boo hoo the white man is the root of all our problems and has to pay. In actual fact you are the victim of your own attitude; and guess what, outside of NZ the rest of the world doesnt give a f**k.
So fellow Maori, I challenge you to get an education, create a life you can be proud of and move forward in a global world.
And as an even richer Maori businessman I can state the complete opposite in a similarly useless and vapid manner as you.
There's no such animal as a richer Maori businessman who just wrote what you wrote - you are a loser.
Thanks for the insight - your half price KKK membership is ready for pickup.
If you actually were a rich Maori businessman then you would have the intelligence and mana to be able to separate fact from fiction. Your comments indicate that you are more likely one of the bros feeding from the public trough you staunchly want to protect and keep filled and hence are simply a victim.
Go on bro give me a history lesson that contravenes my statement.
Nga mihi
Actually to be honest like most very successful businessman my success was based on patronage, privilege, inside dealing, timing and a hefty measure of good luck, with of course a large appetite for hard work.
Sadly though sir your statement is fairly incomprehensible even to an intellect like mine and so your request must go answered. Please feel free to continue your angry tirades though by all means.
Kind regards.
Me thinks that your reference to being an "even richer Maori" and subsequent comment of being a "very successful business man" coveys a fragility of ego and I suspect masks an underlying desire to actually be a successful businessman bro. One can only conclude from your condescending tone therefore that you are simply an armchair commentator and a pretender; and hence you now bore me.
Sorry to bore you sir, I guess your rabid hysteria is indeed far more exciting than reality.
And I challenge you, Anonymous Maori businessman, not to remain Anonymous!
You can achieve so much more for this country - and your people - than I can, but you need to stand up.
It's a bit like a Baptist revivial.
Much much better than being part of a revival of dormant genes of child and infant killers.
Congratulations John! It's good to know that some people realise that the truth does matter. Look forward to learning something new from your campaign.
As do all of us - sadly all we get are these recycled slogans, fear mongering and pandering to bigots.
Well done, John Ansell. AT LAST we have someone willing to stand up to the inevitable ridicule from the Grievers and tell it how it really is. Anyone who is in any doubt about the true history of this country should read John Robinson's latest book 'When two cultures meet, the New Zealand experience'. What we are getting today is sanitised revisionist history. The Waitangi Tribunal which should be disbanded immediately, is basing its settlements on fraudulent research and they well know it, as people are not paid unless they 'find' satisfactorily for what the Tribunal wants. It's an utter disgrace. As we speak a racially biased committee is deciding our new Constitution and we all know what that will be like. Bring it on John. Well done.
Wasn't your sanitorium curfew 8pm sir?
And who let you out today?
The Maori probation officer who is your Cozzie?
What clever use of racism in humour.
Proud to support John Ansell in his efforts.
Thanks Colin.
Proud to not support John Ansell in his efforts.
Half my family are Maori (by marriage). Why should they and my nieces and nephews, enjoy privileges that my nieces and nephews (who haven't married Maori), don't. That is apartheid the NZ way.
My position precisely. There is nothing so offensive as to presume any of my mokopuna require more privileges to get on in the world than others.
In my opinion the Treaty industry has become a vile corruption.
Te Tiriti.
I'm sadly not that staggered that this sort of idiocy seems to be prospering on NBR. You should know better than to pander to this sort of right wing racist nutter. He even invoked Godwin's law with the Chamberlin reference.
Ansell can listen to his own rhetoric and bugger off to Australia where they have a flat society, treating Aboriginals the same as everyone else. Go live in one of their communities and taste the fairness.
Meanwhile don't forget that 100% of voters don't support the ACT party, and the vast majority (I won't bother making up stats as you did) will keep supporting the amazing work NZ is doing to create a fairer decent and increasingly awesome multicultural society.
Bit of a fail to say you won't make up stats and then say 100% of voters don't support ACT.
Good one, HHH.
To be fair, Lance Wiggs great grandfather probably stole some land from the Maoris and now, he wants his conscience cleared by the rest of us bowing to racist demands by the grievance race.
Good one KKK
I understand that one great grandfather was a negotiator for land. He was honoured by being presented with a kiwi feather cloak, so was clearly respected. I wish I knew more - I don't know my own whakapapa.
A multicultural society doesn't need to pretend it is a bicultural one.
This the first good common sense thing we must do in New Zealand.I am sickand tired of our race based system which bodes no good for any country.We are using a seperate apartheid race managed system here in our land and ht esooner we face the reality of hard facts, the better for our children living here.
Apartheid? Can any of the idiots citing NZ apartheid back this up? F*** off back under your rocks please and take all your square-assed chums with you.
The thing is that John has said some very good things. But what he said in the tone of voice he used for the ACT campaign was even too unpaletable for me - and I agree that the gravy train must end. I was quite relieved he took a step away after that, it was cringeworthy at best.
He is good with words, so if put differently then he may do well.
What I would like to know is if the Treaty settlements have actually been a benefit to Maori in general or just a few of the elite. I suspect the latter. A colour blind state sounds great to me. My family is comprised of Maori and non Maori members - all are hard working, good family people and tax payers. I can't see the difference based on race.
I would like to hear some actual facts from Anonymous. All he/she can do is make negative comments without any backing. John Ansell is very courageous taking this on, and deserves our admiration and support, as we all know the grievers will be very anxious at the thought of their gravy train being exposed as fraudulent and will complain bitterly. Funny how they always turn it around and call those who know what is going on and comment, racists, when in fact the reverse actually applies.
Blah blah blah
I applaude the stance John and agree it should be one rule for all. Most so called Maori have a higher Non-maori heritage and are effectively blaming their ancestors (that they do not want to acknowledge) for taking land off their minority (Maori) ancestors. So have they really been disadvantaged?
The compensation paid out to date has put the tribes who have been smart with investing it in a position to truly help their descendants and the state should now put an end to any further excessive and greedy demands being disguised as retribution.
I have lived in parts of NZ with a high proportion of Maori population and experienced the racism first hand as a Non-maori New Zealander and seen the exploitation and plundering of the natural resources by the self professed guardians. Just watch coastwatch on TV1 for confirmation.
It is interesting that our Maori owned corporations also featured in a recent documentary during the Olympics for exploiting our fish resources through the use of Foreign owned fishing vessels because they cannot get their own (Maori) people to fish their own resource gifted back as retribution to help them into work.
It is time that all New Zealanders had the same rights as every single one of us have ancestors that were all originally immigrants to this country, even if we can trace our ancestry back for generations within NZ as I can.
It is amazing that when you stand up for equal rights for all NZ citizens you get labelled as racist, when it is obviously the opposite.
This is a fanatstic initiative that will get significant support . To crticise this campaign and dismiss Johns veiws is naive . I am tired of New Zealanders giving to a group who lost a fight . Either you are a New Zealander and all for one otherwise leave . I have no sympathy or compassion for the Greivers regards Murray Hale
We have a knight in shining armour in John who might save us all from liquidation! Perhaps apathetic NZers will finally wake up to what the Maori are doing!
I suggest those of you who are happy to go about your lives in complete ignorance concerning the Treaty industry (and the manipulation of history), wake up to yourselves and demonstrate that your IQs' reach more than double digits. You may need to go and live in other countries to gain some 'smarts' and life experience. You've probably only ever lived in NZ and as a result are gold medal winning 'naval gazers'. I have lived in other countries over a decade and actually am disgusted to return to a country full of 'wimps' and PC idiots. Good on you John, This movement actually needs to progress and gain momentum. Take no notice of the Whinges and Whiners, if only they knew what insignificant, ignorant and unintelligent beings they are. You would have to be 'Blind Freddie' not to realise what is going on!
I agree with your comment grundle.
I have never left our country and it has been enlightning discussing the 'Treaty' issue with foriegners who have moved here to live.
They are absolutely disgusted with the way non-maori are treated in New Zealand.
When I ask them what their people would do in their country, I have been told that they would be rioting against it, and they ask why the hell we have let it go as far as it has gone.
John Ansell has my full support.
Unlike the politicians who dangle 'abolish the Treaty' like a lolly for more votes come election time, John Ansell is very serious.
Would those foreigners happen from a little country called South Africa? Hmmm? Wanted to get out the old blunderbuss and put those darkies back in their place?
At last we have someone with guts to speak out. Maori are the biggest wingers and bludgers out. Mr Ansell is saying what we all feel and many politicians are too afraid to back him up. Wanting to give away our hard earned money and land WE have developed all to be given back, because we have become so P.C. and soft.
Most races have a defining characteristic With Maori its grievance
Any reading of 19th century writers observances will reveal this and it follows through to today What a fertile ground for selfserving politicians and lawyers to tap into and they have- in spades over and over again
Not so much however in the period late 1800s to early 1900s as then
Maori could see the benefits of government rule and had no wish to return to old tribal ways Todays gravy trainers are a few generations further on and have well and truly tapped into the welfare system that
breeds irresponsibility
Its going to take a monumental task to put this back on track
Good luck with that John
A formal legal challenge to drag it out from behind closed doors into the public arena is as I see it the only way
Thank you NBR, the King of exposure, and John Ansell for providing it.
The Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975 and the Waitangi Tribunal were both founded on Governments English Treaty alone.
Our singular and only authorised Tiriti is written in Maori, there is no other, and it contains no exclusive privilege to Maoris
Gvnr Hobson stated, "That signed at Waitangi on 06-02-1840 is de-facto our Treaty and all other signatures pertain to this document." Only one Tiriti was signed on this day, Maori.
In international law, if there is more than one Treaty and one is in the native language that in the native language takes precedence over all others
Govts English Treaty was signed at Makara heads, Waikato, in April and carries the statement, "Done at Waitangi on 06-02-1840", relating all signatories to our singular Maori Tiriti signed on this date.
The Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975 and the Waitangi Tribunal were founded solely on the false English treaty, our genuine Maori Tiriti was included in this Act 10 years later, 1985, but never full actioned or all Maori exclusive privileges would have to go.
Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law.
When the New Zealand Maori Council lodged a so-called lands case with the Waitangi Tribunal, Hugh Kawhura had written his own, unauthorised translation of our Tiriti which he called “an attempt at a reconstruction of the literal translation of the Maori text". Not only was this “reconstructed, unauthorised, false treaty translation” accepted by the Crown, but by the Appeal Court hearing 1987, New Zealand Maori Council verses the Attorney General, accepted it to endorse the five “Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi” and that the treaty was a “Partnership between Maori and the Crown,” thereby, severing around 85% of New Zealanders of their Treaty rights. He ,also, translated “taonga ” as “treasures”, opening the door to intangible claims such as airwaves, employment, education, Health and etc.
Currently National has an agreement with the Maori Party to review our 1852 constitution and favoured is the 3rd World constitution of Bolivia.
In Bolivia, people had their homes and cars transferred to community ownership and if they wanted to retain same had to rent them back.
I have a picture in my mind of New Zealanders lying on their backs with their paws in the air, total surrender.
Good on you John. But why the label "racial favouritism"?
Why not call it what it really is? Racism. Discriminating on the basis of skin colour.
Discrimination can be either negative or positive.
Discrimination: treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit:
Why use fancy cotton wool pinko words like "racial favouritism".?
Call it what it is. Racial Discrimination. Racial Discrimination. Racial Discrimination.
Fight fire with fire!
Currently the racists are crying racist while getting handouts. The ones crying Racist ARE THE RACISTS!
Time for the Emperor to be told he is naked.
"Mr Ansell claims elitist elements in parliament, the judiciary, academia and the media are guilty of covering up New Zealand’s true history and assisting “griever Maoris” to extort money from taxpayers."
Evidence?
When is the truth not the truth?
When it is not the whole truth!
There are actually more than the 105 known sites (by the Elite) of Moratoria in our Great Country that our Illustrious Elite do not know of and never will due to the Moratoria / embargo being continually rolled over (normally of a 65 year term) Moratoria and the seemingly never willing so called Elites inability to address the hard issues and answer the Publics questions that I assume are paid handsomely for to do the right thing, not many New Zealanders know of this yet the number of inquisitive voters of today thankfully at last have a great interest and thirst for knowledge and truth, the keepers of this Sacred Knowledge have been in the past ostracised and publicly ridiculed whenever they attempt to enlighten their fellow Countrymen of the Full Truth possibly due to New Zealands grisly untold latter ancient past.
These same people (current Elites) know full well of the former Elite getting away with this type of behaviour in the past and knowing the general population have for decades been dumbed down to our very own History, what they fail to take into account however is a number of people not only of European descent and their reasons for arriving here whether legally, on business or even jumping ship prior to the Colonisation of our once even greater Country.
A lot of the Ancient sites were destroyed by the convicts sent here for a New Start and New Life in a new Land if they did as instructed and kept silent prior to and after the official date of colonisation. I feel it is not up to me to explain it all to everyone yet I encourage all New Zealanders to do their own factual informed research and take on board only that which resonates as being the full truth as there have been many trails of DECEPTION laid over a very long period of time that can still be corrected, individual research and positive yet inforned community debate throughout NEW Zealand of where do we go from here will surely harm no one other than a few bruised egos of those that are proponents of the ONGOING and ever expanding FAILED TREATYGATE INDOCTRINATION yet will set a heck of a lot more people FREE to indeed make a brighter future for ALL KIWIS.
N.B Get the facts, stand up and ask the tough questions, inform any one of your personal knowledge of Your beliefs gained through personal toil and a growing understanding which will surely progress naturally as questions DEMANDING ANSWERS of the Elite would grow immensely over a very short time, surely being Public Servants they are accountable to the Public that enjoys living in a True Democracy. and as such are accountable one would hope.
There WERE OTHERS HERE prior to Colonisation when New Zealand was known around the globe as Staatenland and referred to as the Waitaha Nation, Our land was inhabited by many races living in PEACE.
At least one of those Races survives to this day albeit in small groups in remote climes they are known as Ngati Turehu, children of the mist etc, their Petroglyphs (cave drawings), tools and even their skeletons can be found in two caves of theirs at Narrowneck Devonport Auckland with many other artifacts such as Boer War Artillery, Handguns and rifles, Boeing 1 & 2 Floatplanes and much much more that only UNBIASED Professional Academics should evaluate and report on, many other sites up and down New Zealand allow NO scientific studies to be permitted by the Status Quo at present, in fact I have in the past spoken to one person of great intellect and knowledge that purports to have been threatened with the consequences of his actions were he to send artifacts overseas for carbon dating as a certain large New Zealand University would not touch them with a bargepole, why not?. I could go on my inquisitive friend perhaps I shall pen a book on this supporting my claims to you today of this ever growing rort of monumental proportions inflicted on so many innocents by so few over the last four decades especially.
In Summation:
Two wrongs will never make a right.
Please keep an open mind and PEACE in your heart when the FULL TRUTH finally emerges and true Justice prevails for the masses.
The physical evidence you seek can be found at most places identified in the Moratoria of successive NZ Governments the last I believe (needs to be confirmed) was enacted by the Labour Govt of Ms Clark which History tells us will come around again, yet not until sometime in 2063.
Everyone is surely entitled as a Resident of our fair land to over ride a seemingly odious Moratoria on our Ancient past to be over turned and fully investigated for all to see, Perhaps a Referendum on exactly this issue is needed as well.
Wishing you well in your personal quest for the truth on this subject and also a wonderful day tomorrow.
There have been several national polls in NZ as far back as the Stuart C Scott books 95/96 that have confirmed each time, with over 80% support what John Ansell claims to be true.
What is going on in NZ is a blatant transfer of property rights to a totally undeserving group of elites who are simply part Maori by accident at birth. It is a disgrace and it has corrupted the democracy of this nation.
#17 Anonymous are you joking ? The list is endless
Tax treatment of Maori companies for starters look at your tax form
The truth is that John is trying to copy A. Hitler... He is nothing more than a racist with a lack of knowledge regarding New Zealand history, the current social economic status of Maori due to colonisation, and a belief that his "race" is superior to others.... along with this he appears to believe that NZ was settled by other "races" from as far away as Europe.... hundreds of years before Maori.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCfm1ITWpCw
The economic status of Maori is significantly better thanks to colonisation they have access to modern medicine, literacy, numberacy, the internet which you are using to post on this site. Colonisation has provided benefits around the world.
Ngati Kiwi--Tribe Kiwi --All of us together --- I think that is what John is advocating equal treatment equal opportunity
How do you see it differently A Hitler ? racism ? I dont think so
An interesting approach by a man of apparent courage.
Already the various biases are starting to show.
It will be fascinating to see how long he lasts before he is sat on by self-interested politicians and others on the gravy train.
liberte
For many decades, there has been no such thing as a discrete or separate "Maori" ethnic group. Prior to the passage of the Electoral Amendment Act 1975, the legal definition of “Maori” for electoral purposes was “a person of the Maori race of New Zealand or a half-caste descendent thereof.” After panicked complaints from its Maori MPs that soon nobody would be eligible for the Maori Roll, the then-Labour Government changed the second half of this definition to read “or any descendent of such a person.”
Under current electoral law, New Zealanders of Anglo-Maori descent can determine once every electoral cycle whether they wish to be on the Maori Roll or the General Roll. We thus have a legal definition of “Maori” that defies definition in the Courts because it is based solely on an individual’s periodic decision to identify as “Maori.”
All so-called “Maori” alive today are in fact of mixed Anglo-Maori descent. It would be virtually impossible to find a “Maori” who doesn’t possess more of the blood of the colonisers than that of the colonised. There is no logical reason why public policy should support the notion that someone less than half-Maori should lawfully be regarded as “Maori.”
"Maori" is thus today not a definable ethnic group, but an artificial creation of statute and a cultural identity sold to its part-Maori adherents by "entrepreneurs of ethnicity," and adopted for the psychic rewards of belonging to a supposedly "oppressed" people.
Writing in 1972, historian Joan Metge offers a compelling explanation as to why a subset of New Zealanders today might continue see themselves as “Maori:” "New Zealanders, both Maori and Pakeha, tend to identify others as 'Maori' if they 'look Maori,' that is if they have brown skin and Polynesian features."
Since the Maori phenotype tends to predominate in a person’s appearance, those who are considerably less than half-Maori are often identified by others as "Maori" whether they like it or not. We can theorise that individuals are highly likely to compensate for this psychic wound by aggressively embracing a collective "Maori" identity and seeking utu from the majority culture they have persuaded themselves they are shut out of.
RE: Graeme Faulkner
The interventions which are in place to help Maori back up the social ladder after 150 years of economic deprivation are not racist. The existence of the huge inequities between Maori and non-Maori are.
To make everything "equal" assumes that we are all born equal and that there is equal opportunity and equal access to resources in this country, when clearly there is not. Maori had their resources aka land, stripped from them during colonisation and now make up the most deprived population, most likely to not own their own houses etc. That land was then given to farmers who received handsome subsidies from the Crown until the 80s, subsidies still continue today with exemption from ETS which the rest of us all have to pay.
"Equality" ignores what should truly be strived for which is EQUITY or SOCIAL JUSTICE where resources are allocated based on NEED. Do tell who has the greatest need when over 60% of Maori live in deprivation compared to less than 5% Pakeha?
The equality message ignores all other successful interventions, which are undertaken to equalise the playing fields within society... for example disabled car parks, or the rural doctors scheme which ensures that there are doctors in the hard to staff rural sectors...
All the race based comments show that he and supporters like anonymous are stuck in the last century when race and phenotype were used to forcefully assimilate people into one culture. No one has the right to tell someone who they can or cannot be or which culture they can identify with. Ask yourself, can someone be one quarter English race, one third Welsh, a tiny bit of Scottish... and therefore can only identify as English.. what a load of crap. There is only one race, the human race with many cultures and ethnicities.
NK
You cant legislate privilege to one race or culture above another and call that equality. If you think that is so what happens when equality is reached, it will evenually right, who takes the privilege away? No one will allow the good times to stop, just look at the treaty claims.
All you can do is make things a level playing field and encourage those at the bottom to pull their socks up.
***There is only one race, the human race with many cultures and ethnicities.***
There is the species homo-sapien. Below the species levels you have races - or ancestral populations such as East Asians, Europeans, South-East Asians, polynesians etc.
Checkout www.elocal.co.nz for articles on strange archaeological structures in the NZ bush. What does the govt have to fear against an informed public?
The twisted brain wrong of a one-off man mental.
I don't think that is fair comment. You should read the material Ansell has provided on his site. It seems quite well researched and thoughtfully put together. Perhaps you can elaborate?
Very interesting article and particularly shameful of Bernadette Courtney to refuse to run an advertisement in the Dom Post. I might have to start buying the Herald.
Time we had a good hard look at this whole question.
Obviously our pollies won't touch it so it takes a man such as this to drive it through.
liberte