OPINION: Banks and Dotcom - row plays right into Labour's hands
One of them is lying.
Unless either Act leader John Banks or internet tycoon Kim Dotcom turn out to be suffering from some delusional disorder or brain impairment – not likely, but something that cannot be completely ruled out – then one of them is telling outright porkies.
It is a measure of just how far Mr Banks has lost control of the row over the Kim Dotcom donation allegations that the Act Party leader is on the back foot.
After all, this is about allegations from a somewhat dodgy internet entrepreneur, who is not only facing international breach of intellectual property laws but – more pertinently – already has convictions for dishonesty.
Mr Dotcom is hardly Mr Credible.
But Mr Banks' initial response to the allegations was so full of fudge and bluster he is now the one looking shifty.
Yesterday in the House the Labour Party turned up the heat on Mr Banks.
Usually, in these situations, a fellow MP from the same side seeks a supplementary question aimed at providing a beleaguered MP with a launching pad for a counter-attack.
Even though Mr Banks does not have any fellow Act MPs, it is not at all unusual for an MP from an aligned party – say, one of the many National MPs who were in the House at the time – to feed such a question.
Yesterday: nada. Zip. National MPs studiously buried their heads in their order papers.
Yet National is probably the party which stands to lose the most from this row.
The Act Party is, to be blunt, almost dead on its feet.
But Labour MPs were as happy as pigs in muck yesterday, and it was not just because they were buoyed by that morning’s Herald Digipoll which showed a more than 6% jump.
Nor was it just that the party finally had an issue on which they could shove the government onto the defensive – an issue which does not involve Labour having to make any awkward decisions about its own policies.
Labour has a long-standing policy of moving to full taxpayer funding for political parties and effectively minimising any private donations at all.
It has never quite had the nerve to implement that policy, but it has been there for over a decade.
During the 2002 review of MMP the party, as a collective, and also in the form of several individual branches, made submissions to the review calling for full taxpayer funding of political parties.
Labour’s enthusiasm for the idea has grown as union membership – formerly the party’s main source of funding – has dwindled.
In 2008, then-Prime Minister Helen Clark told the House in an exchange at question time that “nothing would give me greater pleasure” than moving to a system of total taxpayer funding.
The idea is not particularly popular with voters – which is why Ms Clark, despite her clear enthusiasm for the idea, never quite had the nerve to follow through with implementation.
But it is there as a long-term goal.
The John Banks/Kim Dotcom row plays right into Labour’s hands on this.
The more discredited private donations to political parties looks, the better the chance of persuading a reluctant public to go along with full taxpayer-funded political parties.
Which is why – apart from the more obvious reasons of short term political advantage – Labour is talking up this issue for all it is worth.
As for the immediate issue, John Key has made it clear he takes Mr Banks at his word and the main thing which would cause him, as prime minister, to lose confidence in Mr Banks would be if the Epsom MP had misled him.
That sets the bar for dismissing Mr Banks fairly high.
The Act Party leader would have been not only dishonest but foolish if he has misled the prime minister.

























Comments and questions26
Thanks, finally a reason why Labour and Greens are pursuing this saga. Frankly if nothing else this should show voters why they need to avoid Labour Greens etc. The taxpayer should not be funding political parties any more than they currently do. Unless the amount is set at no more than $10k for each elected member. Note: Elected member not list member!
JP-Whether an electorate MP or list they are all elected members.
Why is Dotcom creating trouble for John Banks?
Mr Garrett claimed "Dotcom was being badly treated in some way and asked who the local MP for the Mt Eden Prison area was". No doubt delighted to discover the mayoral candidate he'd not so long before gifted $50,000 in campaign contributions had transmogrified into that very MP, he asked for help. Mr Garrett says "the MP was very ungracious to his beneficent donor" and "didn't want to know the fat man in his hour of need".
Mr Dotcom "took great umbrage at this ... as you would ... and decided to tell all".
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10802771
Maybe John Banks should be the hero for standing up to Dotcom's request for help and saying no.
Donations should be just that, donations. They shouldn't have strings attached, where favours can be called in at any time.
These political donation scandals are common here and overseas. Wasn't there a donations scandal surrounding Winston Peters a few years ago? Donation scandals follow the classic political scandal format.
The news media often willingly go along with these political circus's without asking the uncomfortable questions.
"Maybe John Banks should be the hero for standing up to Dotcom's request for help and saying no.
Donations should be just that, donations. They shouldn't have strings attached, where favours can be called in at any time."
Sure, but why is Banks saying he didn't know dotcom donated? "Can't recall, don't remember" He's a member of parliament, if he can't remember stuff like this he's in the wrong job.
Grow a pair John Key, show strong leadership for a change and kick him out.
"why is Banks saying he didn't know dotcom donated?"
I don't know, but I suspect that these types of scandals are designed to show that someone lied.
What I would like to know is what is the big deal about naming the donation. If all donations were named could this create problems in the future if a media outlet decided to create a big stink? I don't really know what the underlying issues are.
Anyone want to let the readers know how the donation setup really works?
I don't think there;'s any mystery about Dotcom's motive. He's mightily p***ed off with everyone from Key down, he has a few cards up his sleeve and he's playing them.
suffering from delusional disorber or brain impairment describes the greens and labour to a t
When does a political donation turn into a BRIBE?
Penny Bright
'Anti-corruption campaigner'
I rarely agree with Penny but she has tabled a very valid question.
In NZ we tend to not debate this because we think NZ is free of corruption and unethical behaviour in business. This is not the case.
To expand on this when is an invitation to the Rugby a bribe?
WE have already had the Taxpayer funding political expenses, just ask the Labourt pary about 'Helen's' $800,000. THAT was a large ELECTION BRIBE SCENE.
don't recall the media following that fraud like a pack of Bloodhounds... oh!! I forgot, the media are 'in bed' with Socialisim.
Helen's now failed Electoral Act was a de facto attempt to pervert democracy. Donations to political parties are also de facto bribes, but should not be annonymous..
It is quite obvious to me that the tubby kraut gave donations to Banks expecting a return, now why isn't he being questioned re trying to bribe a politician?
Perhaps because wed have to grill SkyCity as well and theyve paid off everyone at every level both local and central govt? Extensive lobbying I guess is appears to be our new world
You mean "extensive lobbying" or "expensive lobbying"?
'You mean "extensive lobbying" or "expensive lobbying"?'
same diff, surely?
Donations are a form of implicit inducements; a genteel way of describing a bribe.
I am so sick of hearing about this. It seems all avenues of the media are trying to undermine the govt. They need to be reminded that the reason NZ is in such a bad way is because of 10 years of Labour. There is no future for socialisim in NZ.
The media doesn't need to try to undermine the Govt, the Govt's doing a pretty decent job of that all by itself.
Isn't there a name on the bottom of every cheque and therefore it would be impossible not to know who the money was from??
Now, come on, how can you expect Banksy to remember something as insignificant as a signature when he can't even remember a helicopter ride with the guy?
Besides, Dotcom is such an ordinary name that it'd be easily forgotten if you saw it on a cheque. Smith, Brown, Jones, Black, Wilson, Dotcom, they're all so commonplace.
Robe its Helen Clarke with an E.
A prisoner with a former conviction or a politician; who is more trusted?
The answer tends to reinforce the regular Readers Digest trusted professions survey, even though prisoners don't feature (maybe in modern times they mean directors?)
In any case, politicians do themselves no favours with behaviour that reinforces the negative perceptions the Speaker has been trying to improve by reducing pointless bluster and requiring Ministers actually answer questions straight in the House.
"I forgot/can't recall/remember" are the default phrase of those caught out when they knew they were being dodgy and didn't comply with the spirit/intention of the law or common decency. David Richwhite (Winebox affair which cost us millions$$$)used that over and over on the stand and got away with it, which is why Banks is following suit.
This dumb ACT is gonna cost us heaps too...no wonder productive people leave NZ cuz there aint many of us left to foot the bills for porkies.
Think you are premature.Let us wait until next week when Labours Asian businesman appears in court ,and indicts some of that party's MPs
This is a ridiculous storm in a teacup.Who cares,a boring media beat up.There are more important things to worry about and face.NZ'ers are a wet,pathetic bunch grizzling about this rubbish.Get a life all of you!!
Storm in a teacup? Ha! Does Banks look like he thinks it's a storm in a teacup? He looks like the walking dead, a pale zombie shuffling around in a Michael Jackson video.