English left in 'unfair position' - Speaker
Public pressure has left Finance Minister Bill English in the "unfair position" of receiving no Wellington accommodation allowance, Speaker Lockwood Smith says.
Mr English was yesterday cleared by the Auditor-General of wrong-doing over his housing allowance claims, after he was criticised for claiming almost $1000 a week in expenses -- including $700 a week in rent, to live in his own house, leased to the Government as an official residence.
Mr English decided to pay back the difference -- about $12,000 -- between what he had been claiming as a minister and what he would have been able to claim as an MP.
He then paid back all the allowance he had received since becoming a minister, a total of about $33,000, including the $12,000, and said he wouldn't make any further housing allowance claims.
Argument focused on whether Mr English was a Wellington-based minister. He claimed his primary residence was in Dipton, in his Southland electorate, but his family live with him in Karori, Wellington.
Dr Smith this morning said he was "troubled" Mr English was no longer receiving an accommodation allowance for living in Wellington.
"I actually am concerned that the pressure has put Mr English in an unfair position now," he told Radio New Zealand.
However, it was not up to Dr Smith to remedy the situation as Mr English came under Ministerial Services rules, whereas Dr Smith was responsible for Parliamentary Services, which covered MPs only.
"Were he a Member of Parliament, I would be concerned about that because he has to maintain two residences and he does deserve to have a limited allowance available for reimbursement for accommodation costs here in Wellington," he said.
"Under the parliamentary system, the amount of reimbursement we pay in Wellington is sufficient to keep one person in a single flat in reasonable proximity to Parliament.
"No more than that. If they bring their family to Wellington, that's their cost."
Labour is not letting up on Mr English's living arrangements and is now concentrating on whether or not Mr English had a pecuniary interest in the Wellington house, which is owned by a family trust.
Mr English declared no such interest and attached a copy of the advice he had received about it.
"In our view, the advice that Mr English relied on to make his declaration was not applicable to this situation and was based on too narrow a test for the Ministerial Services' situation," the report said.
"We consider that Mr English does have an indirect financial interest in the trust."
The report said this happened because different systems used to decide allowances did not fit well together, and it recommended they should be sorted out.
Labour, however, says Mr English still has a case to answer and more questions are expected to be asked in Parliament.
MP Pete Hodgson said last night Mr English's case was unique.
"Most New Zealanders would think that if you have a house in a family trust, you have a financial interest in it," he said.





















Comments and questions8
Shows exactly how thick Pete Hodgson is
You cannot 'have' a house in a family trust. It is impossible - Either you own the house or the family trust does.
What is possible is to have a financial interest in the Trust itself(via a loan/debt to it)
Of course being perennial losers in the scheme of life I very much doubt any of the Labour Party have enough assets to even contemplate having a Family Trust. They devote their time to sniping at those who have worked hard to get themselves in a position to need one.
I agree with this post as it applies to Labour. But if you want to talk about 'sniping' at those who have worked hard and have Trusts, well last Friday English, the hypocrite, stated his intention to have IRD go after the 'legitimate avoidance' being practiced via Trusts and companies.
Quite apart from the oxymoron that is 'legitimate avoidance' - if it's legitimate, then it's NOT avoidance, you wally, Bill - then he should have been hoisted on the petard of the double standard involved, given how he attempted to use his Trust, which if in a tax sphere, was solely to gain an advantage under the enacting legislation, thus 'actual' avoidance..
As I said in my last post: I'm tired of paying for party politics in NZ. I just wish they'd all remove themselves from my wallet and my life.
Um, my last post related to the very first post on this thread.
What can you expect from the clueless labour party, they haven't got anything helpful to say so they have reverted back to being the labour of old, doing their best to ruin a good mans reputation and career.
It's about time Hodgson retired, he's one of the OLD brigade, his ideas are tired and totally useless, just what has he added to the good of this country, a big fat NOTHING, just like the rest of his mob.
Pete in case you haven't got the message, give up, we the voters, are sick of your stupid behaviour, leave parliament and get a real job, and we'll see how well you manage in the real world.
I would like to see old Pete and his cronies striped of their allowances and then we'll see some whining, socialists are not know for their saving and economic abilities, boy I bet there'd be some moaning.
Or should it be "grasping at straws" as the Labour party digs itself ever deeper into the hole of self destruction..
Wake up and smell the coffee Labour - the public is tired of your schoolyard antics
Hodson failed as a vet,to ram things home he is so pathetic even the animals dont want them near him,go figure.
Well I have two houses, a permanent one and a holiday house. For my sanity, I have to get to the holiday house as regularly as I can, but I get no taxpayer reimbursement.
I don't care whether it's Labour, National, or whatever, I'm sick of paying for all the largesse (thinking of the airfare expenditure numbers yesterday). There's far too many rules and regulations coming out of Wellington anyway, so I personally wish they only met a couple of times a year - we'd all be better off. And what about technology: do we even need a parliamentary debating chamber: let them video conference, or even cheaper, do it all by email. Works fine for me.
This little spat is about as interesting as watching paint dry, but without the colour.
Ministers should be compensated afair bit more than just MPs. Say double.
They do represent us after all and they need to be able to do that without the nosey parkers from the media getting all upset about a measly few thousand. All up if the buggars (ministers) in Wellington cost us less than a million each then its a bargain.