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Farmers say Emissions Trading Scheme a disaster

The Kyoto Forestry Association (KFA) has welcomed the passing of the Emissions Trading Scheme legislation.

The bill, which passed on a 63-57 vote after its third reading in Parliament last night, will eventually bring all sectors of the economy under a regime which sets limits on the amount of greenhouse gas they can emit.

Those that breach their limit will have to buy credits from those that are below their cap.

KFA spokesman Roger Dickie s aid the passage of the scheme represented New Zealand's start in the fight against climate change.

"Forestry was always going to be New Zealand's least-cost answer to reducing our Kyoto liability and genuinely fighting climate change ...and the legislation will kick-start new planting from 2009 onwards," he said.

However, Mr Dickie questioned the timeline of the bill, saying KFA believed all gases and all sectors, particularly agriculture, should be brought into the ETS sooner than planned.

"The sooner that the agribusiness sector accepts that it will soon face a carbon price, the sooner it will begin adapting to that price and the sooner land values will adjust accordingly to encourage afforestation," he said.

As it stands the bill brings electricity under its umbrella in 2010, transport in 2011 and agriculture in 2013.

Green Party co-leader Jeanette Fitzsimons said that while the passing of the ETS was a step in the right direction, it was time to make some big strides.

At the third reading of the bill, Ms Fitzsimons said it was important for New Zealanders to recognise that the emissions trading scheme had not fixed climate change.

" We need to adopt real targets within New Zealand," she said.

"We must also work in international forums to get the United States and the larger developing countries to sign up to an international agreement on climate change."

Federated Farmers, which has consistently opposed the ETS, said Parliament had made a bad mistake by passing it.

"This has all been rushed through Parliament for short-term political gain rather than any sound economic or environmental reasons that will benefit New Zealand or the globe," said the federation's president Don Nicolson.

"The reality is it will cost New Zealand significant real money and is unlikely to achieve the global outcomes sought.

"For some politicians the passing of this bill is seen as a clever political public relations stunt."

Mr Nicolson said agriculture would be affected "from day one" by higher input costs.

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It's disgusting that even the National Party support an ETS. Only ACT voted against Labour's Bill at all stages and only ACT have pledged to scrap the Emissions Trading Scheme.

Yet another scheme to shut down manufacturing and value added activities and export them to other Countries that have inferior environmental standards.
It just doesn't make sense at all.

ETS is an amazing evolution in bad law.
The basis of law was previously that a specified [proven] problem would be fixed by a well researched and well justified new law.
The ETS is about a speculative unproven problem that may and even likely will not be fixed by the new law.
Parliament has stepped off into no longer trustworthy land.

The simple part is the legislation.

Then an army of “policeman” can be justified to verify those that are emitting above or below their allocated permitted level. Even this process of allocating rights to emit is bedevilled with challenges.

You are giving people property rights, and their allocation will either give to or take money from, people.

Beyond this start point the year in year out calculations of emissions will require a bevy of bureaucrats.

The further you go back to the source the easier the management of the problem. An ETS imposed on energy businesses to be passed through the supply chain still has the same result as asking each motorist to calculate emissions and pay. It’s the difference between a handful and a few million.

And how do you account for all those methane belching cows? Their “collective belch” is perhaps more serious as a CO2 equivalent emission than any other?

Roger Carthew
www.carthew.com.au

One must realise that teh ETS scheme has been missnamed, it is an Envirnmental Tax Scheme; having exhausted -(killed off the other golden geese) the socialists are now looking for another source of tax income for their ideologically deluded schemes.
One side effect of the ETS will be to make farming as we know it in NZ uneconomical, thus allowing teh State to step in and take over farming; a long term desire of socialist ideology. To see how succesful this will be, just recall the now dead Soviet Union experiment in collective farming.
Sadly, the people who should be reading these articles won't be, many of course don't have the literacy comprehension to understand them; others prefer to believe the drivel that our socalled journalists in teh mainstream media produce.

Do these politicians actually realise what a monumental cock-up has been created here?
This piece of legislation defies all common sense and logic.

Fraser Institute have performed an independent review of the IPCC "science"

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/commerce.web/product_files/Independent%20Summary5.pdf

I just wish the Labour/Greens would actually READ some science before deciding on laws

NZ has a death wish and no center party to lead it.
It's opposition is just another option for the same Braindead fairy land Stupidity.
Tried arguing here before but it is useless as the willingly ignorant don't reason anyway. If I am not censored that is.

So just a ignorant slogan as that is what seems to impress the retoric loving sheep of New Zealand on their way down to the slaughter.

uijyjk

The Fraser Institute is a right-wing think tank. They take money from ExonnMobile and their report on the IPCC "science" was totally biased.

Always check references. Make sure the scientists you are quoting are not bought and paid for by the anti-environmental movement - big oil.

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