House prices seen up just 3% nationally over coming year - ASB
Housing confidence remains stable despite dipping slightly in ASB’s latest housing confidence survey for the three months to October 30.
A net 24% of respondents believe it is a good time to buy a house, down 1% from 25% the previous quarter.
All regions responded positively that it was a good time to buy a house except for Christchurch which responded with a net -6%, compared to the rest of the South Island which reported 27% confidence.
Christchurch reported more confidence, overtaking Auckland, compared to the rest of the country that house prices would rise with a net 43% expecting a rise in house prices compared a net national confidence of 22% compared to 25% the previous quarter. Auckland returned a net 36% confidence of a rise in house prices.
ASB’s forecasts modest growth in house prices in the New Year because of tightening in the housing market.
“We expect house price nationwide to grow modestly at a rate of around 3% over the coming year. House price growth in Auckland is likely to be stronger than that, reflecting its relatively tighter market,” ASB’s chief economist Nick Tuffley says.
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I don’t know how those who were pushing property as a good thing to put your money into, even after the crash had started in 2008 and beyond, can sleep at night. I am talking about various media outlets, economists, lenders, banks and building societies, chartered surveyors, estate agents, developers, politicians. They have created misery for thousands of New Zealand residents who believed the hype unknowingly, who believed the so-called experts
It's not like mum and dad investors hav emany other viable options though - finance companies - yeah right!
However; a listed entity on the stockmarket of NZ physical assets, where NZ holds the controlling interest would have to be a good thing - surely?
John Key wants to partially sell of state assets, including Mighty River, Meridian, Genesis and Solid Energy, and part of the government's stake in Air New Zealand ('mixed model ownership', they like to call it, or 'privatisation', if you're using the accurate turn of phrase).
The government claims that the revenue from these sales will help pay down our debt, and that mum and dad investors will be able to buy shares. Great.
But this rhetoric ignores the facts, and history. Firstly, we already own our state assets. All of us.
It's naive to claim that selling them off gives us more of a stake. In fact, when Contact Energy was sold, the shares may well have started out being owned by Kiwis, but when a better price came along, who could blame them for selling them to the highest bidder.
The result is that 2/3 of Contact energy dividends, in excess of $1billion worth, are now owned offshore, by mums and dads in distant lands.
So many Kiwis just miss the critical point, people and businesses can be asset rich but still unable to pay their bills. Its not unusual, what everyone is forgetting is that in order to own those assets and keep up our lifestyles of spending more than we earn we have two very simple choices......
1) Borrow more money
2) Sell something
Now choose.
For tghose who want to borrow more, find money to pay the interest costs, but do not expect me to stick around and be taxed to death by havenots who believe its not fair that after years of saving, building my assets, working overseas and away from family for long stretches, I should now gift or pay more taxes just because I can.
One thing I have learnt is that in the end it is better to have saved, becaause it gives me the flexibility to pack up my assets and move on.
Sarah, I understand that some dividends will flow overseas, but it all comes down to the two choices, pick one and live with the consequences.
Take away the working for families tax credits and rent subsidies and house prices will fall.House prices are being held up by Govt handouts.
Fantastic Chris, an in injection of absolute reality.
National’s decision to fund new infrastructure by selling state-owned assets that have returned, on average, 17.6 percent per annum over the last five years.
If you remove the impacts of the global financial crisis from the results, the average total shareholder return from state-owned assets is 21.5 percent
National have come up with the most expensive way ever devised to pay for new infrastructure, selling assets earning 18-22 percent per annum instead of raising debt that would cost 4-6 percent per annum.
A fire sale of state-owned assets will result in New Zealand being poorer and the bankers will be richer.
These asset sales will result in state-owned assets ultimately being foreign owned, because there is no mechanism to stop New Zealand investors selling to foreign interests
@ Sarah T
I kinda agreed with your viewpoint but have now come back to the realisation that what National is doing isn't such a bad thing.
The way Air New Zealand is structured has been working well for the last decade.
Use some of this money to pay down debt, but also use some of this money to invest in greentech as per the Greens initiatives.
The Greens should be looking to work with National, not Labour..... why stay out in the wilderness for another 3 years when you can start making a difference now.
Sarah, if you really believe these assets can return 16% then you can relax. Proper analysis might just show you a different picture, but if they really had been returning 16%, the IPO will be priced to reflect that which would mean a real windfall for the govt.
At one point the proceeds from asset sales was to be used to prudently sell down debt.
Now John Key says it would be spending the proceeds on things that New Zealanders use and need, like schools, hospitals and… irrigation schemes.
I wouldn't be too surprised if it changes again after the sale...
The price we get for assets versus the cost of borrowing the same amount is a good place to inform a view as to whether we sell or hold.
The secondary market in 10-year government bonds prices them to yield 4.4 per cent. The yield on five-year government bonds is just 4 per cent. To get these asset sales, the Government will need to price the companies at price-earnings multiples of somewhere around 14 to 16 times, which implies after-tax earnings yields of 6 to 7 per cent.
In lay terms, that means the Government is proposing to sell assets producing returns of at least 6 to 7 per cent a year after tax plus growth, when it could issue debt costing just 4 to 4.4 per cent. On the face of it, this doesn't look particularly bright, does it?
But don't expect too much negative comment, because many people stand to benefit from these transactions. The management and/or directors of the privatised companies will be looking for share options that will massively reward them if the companies do well.
Investment bankers, brokers, solicitors and financial advisers will all get to clip the ticket as the initial transactions occur, and then have another go when Mum and Dad ultimately sell their shares.
Assuming total asset sales of $6 billion and a sales price implying an after-tax earnings yield of 6 per cent on the assets sold, the assets proposed to be sold will generate profits of $360 million.
The interest saved on $6 billion at 4 per cent is just $240 million, so immediately this transaction would see the Government worse off by $120 million a year if all the SOEs paid out all their profits as dividends.
Again, the economics of the sale option aren't looking all that compelling. But this analysis ignores growth. If the SOEs' profits grow at the rate of inflation plus 1 per cent, the total excess return would be the difference between the earnings yield plus growth of 4 per cent less the cost of debt, which works out to a difference of 6 per cent.
On $6 billion, this translates to $360 million a year, which at current interest rates is well above the cost of servicing the $6 billion in government borrowings. This is a simplistic analysis as it ignores risk and it's possible the Government will be able to sell the assets at lower earnings yields and thus higher prices, but don't hold your breath. Prices could equally be lower.
The other aspect of the great 2012 SOE sale bonanza is, of course, the various fees that must be deducted from what the Government gets. Investment banking and other costs including scoping studies will probably run to at least $180 million.
Sarah, you refer to the 18-22 percent return. There is no gaurantee that will continue unless prices are hicked higher and they stop investing in building power generation capacity. You also refer to cost of borrowing being low, and that may be true now, but it is highly unlikely to remain low.
You are in fact gambling, the cost of money in the futire will be much less than the returns.
This is a typical response, cheap money, so lets borrow more. That is why debt is likened to drugs, but once you are hooked it is very very painful to be weeded off. And NZ is hooked on debt, this is cold turkey time, we can of course wait (ie borrow more) but it just means cold turkey is that much harder and affects everyone in the economy a whole lot more.
Time to get real, no one including me wants to sell assets, but that is the price we are going to pay.
Simple terms, go back to your childhood, and keep asking your mum and dad for more pocket money. At some stage they will give you two choices
1) leave home and fend for yourself
2) sell some of your toys to pay for your lifestyle choices.
Now choose
NZ education system needs a simple revamp, teach those who are now 3, 4 , 5 up until they get it, that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Eventually you got to pay up.
Seems they only plan to sell down to 50%, not sell the whole thing. And it also seems the physical assets are not going anywhere after being sold. So as long as they have learnt something from the Kiwi Rail debacle, and have a bidding system that gets us top dollar for the shares (which should be above book value if they are paying 16% return on BV, given they are low-risk cashflows) we should be better off with the partial sale.
Sarah, the dividend return from the SOEs is nothing like the numbers you have mentioned. If you look at the actual divs received (I think the Treasury website has details) it is far less.
And why should you worry if NZ shareholders sell the scrip overseas? They are getting cash in its place, which they can reinvest elsewhere, or repay debt, by any measure it's a zero sum game. All this bleating about dividends going offshore ignores the opposite side of the ledger. It surprises me how many people don't realise this.
We should be grateful for foreign investment, without it this country wouldn't have the assets and infrastucture it has. Calls to keep the assets in NZ hands is nothing more than xenophobia.
On this one issue alone, National has lost my Vote. Its time New Zealanders told the National Party what they want, not, what National tells us what we want.
Totally agree with you, Sarah . Great analysis.
The government has no right to run three competing power companies . They need to sell them all or merge them all into one .
There are no other countries around the world where this would be the case (except possibly Singapore) .
Thank you for the first explanation I have seen around the asset sales proposal that is not about the politics but where the money goes.
It confirms my gut feeling that this is again a wrong idea.
We have a NATIONAL GVT :in for how many years? why have they not done what YOU say.A nother thee years nothing will change.
Most responses already cover points I would raise, so I'll only add, get your figures right Sarah T. Your numbers are just wrong. $1bil of dividends owned by off shore mum and dads re Contact, what is this number???? Last year Contact paid circa $160m in dividends.
How about the point that the govt owned oligopolies/monopolies are actually charging the consumer more than they could under private ownership. How about putting them into private hands and then properly regulating them eg Telecom. The rates of return you talk about(not correct anyway) would not be tolerated by a regulator if in private hands. So how about this, sell them now, wait a few years then regulate them properly. Honestly if govt was the right owner of these assets then why not repurchase Telecom? You know why, because the consumer would end up paying more and to the government.
I don't have a problem with selling down assets such as Air NZ but I am really against the sell down of basic infrastructure assets such as energy. Govt Depts can't and shouldn't run commercial enterprises but theres no sound reason to reduce the State ownership of profitable concerns that the NZ public are totally dependent on.
And yes, I'm a National supporter.
Asset sales - a very emotional issue. Hmm, let's look at what NZ has in terms of assets.
Gold - none. Not even 1kg. Zilch. Niente
Foreign currency reserves - none.
Mineral resources - a little but we're not allowed to mine any.
So, what are we supposed to do? Keep borrowing more and more.
State Assets- none left after a couple of terms with National in power
Hmmm......
I find it weird how one can sell 3% of ones assets then is left with 'none' .
To me this would be leaving 97% and freeing up cash for the reinvesting of the 3% in priority areas to help grow ones portfolio .
Please elaborate on your argument .
House price growth in the next 12 months?
Cuckoo
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