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NZ 5th for contributing most good to the world

Business Insider reports:

The Good Country Index ranks 125 nations based on how much they do for others globally in seven areas: science and technology, culture, international peace and security, world order, planet and climate, prosperity and equality, and health and well being.

The ranking was created with the merging of 35 data sets produced by organisations like the UN, WHO, and UNESCO over a period of nearly 3-years.

“What I mean by a ‘good country’ is a country that contributes to the greater good,” Simon Anholt, an independent policy advisor who made the index, told Business Insider. “We’ve given each country a balance-sheet to show at a glance whether it’s a net creditor to mankind, a burden on the planet, or something in between.”

The top 10 are:

  1. Ireland
  2. Finland
  3. Switzerland
  4. Netherlands
  5. New Zealand
  6. Sweden
  7. UK
  8. Norway
  9. Denmark
  10. Belgium

5th isn’t at all bad.

Political commentator David Farrar posts at Kiwiblog.

Comments and questions
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So it's NZ and the Northern Europeans saving the world!

A very predictable set of criteria from the Worthies of the World - climate, equality, and culture (I'm reminded of Goering's infamous observation). What happened to innovation, wealth creation, open markets etc?

Any list that has Ireland - a country that for most of the last 400 years couldn't feed its population and more recently has been kept afloat by a mass of EU subsidies - at the top has serious credibility issues.

Have to correct you.

You should read about why Ireland couldn't feed it's population in the 1800's. I think it was the active wealth creation and open markets that the (mainly English) landlords loved so well that encouraged them to export food when the population was starving. There was plenty of food - I think it says more about the English establishment that it does about Ireland.

More recently, the only reason there are EU/IMF loans (not subsidies) is because some idiots in government agreed late one night to guarantee all those "innovative" German and British banks who had made huge loans to developers. We took one for the rest of Europe. So in actual fact, unlike Greece and others, Ireland has and will pay every penny back, or should I say, the citizens of Ireland will each pay about a year's salary to some bank on behalf of some innovative property developer. It's a tragedy and a farce.

Ireland has been a net contributor to the EU for well over a decade.

But people are getting on with it, employment is high, it's the biggest software producer in the world, education is excellent, I'd be pretty positive that Ireland won't take long to get back on it's feet. It's a creative, vibrant, slightly mad place that punches way above it's weight culturally, creatively, academically, financially and is still growing up and getting stronger. We've (almost) matured as a nation. We can farm as well as you, we've almost beaten your rugby team on the last couple of occasions (ref saved you). : )

Our greatest export is (educated and skilled) people. Google's dev conference last week had two Irish directors of Engineering on stage. Christchurch is probably being rebuilt by a barn load of young Paddies. A bit like NZ - good travellers and workers.

Over 1000 years ago we were the seat of learning in Europe, with high kings and a sophisticated economy and culture. I think the #1 spot was well deserved. Of course, these surveys are a load of bollix really but I had to correct you...

Good heavens, you seem to be suggesting that whenever anything bad happens to Ireland it's never the fault of the Irish! And just how many centuries had already passed during which those wicked 'English' landlords had been born, lived and died in Ireland before 1840? By that definition of nationality we still await the birth of the first New Zealander.

I did not suggest anything like that. I was referring to two points made earlier.

It's about behaviour rather than time logged in Ireland or any country for that matter. Ireland at the time was part of the the United Kingdom and landlords were either English or Anglo-Irish, but in the main absentee and living it up in London.

The majority of Anglo-Irish ascendancy were planted there through successive wars. Eventually many integrated and were welcomed as were spanish, normans etc right up to the recent Polish wave of builders!

But at the time of the famine, they were definitely not Irish in any sense - if you measure Irishness as a contribution to the country. They came (or some didn't even come to Ireland), they took, they put nothing back. That changed in the years to follow.

So by that measure of nationality, you are not awaiting the birth of the first new zealander. If I was gifted half of Northland aw a reward for loyalty during some war 200 years ago, but lived in Sydney and used local agents to collect rent would I be a kiwi?!

Gone a bit off topic here.

Interesting. NZ - the only country in the top 10 outside Europe.

And if the US withdrew their forces and their foreign aid worldwide and announced that they were reverting to pre-1940 isolationism, the whole world would be in chaos....and of course nobody would have any use for nice little lists like this.

A closer look at the rankings and some of the categorisations are very peculiar. I think either get into the detail of this or treat it with a very large dose of salt

But of course that is good per head, not good per country. And we're so small.

Ireland's #1?????

Yes well done Ireland.Nigel Owens has a lot to answer for,his phantom penalty given to the ABs to enable them to score an injury time try.