Radical scope for Government Savings Group
The government’s Savings Working Group is being given a huge brief – including areas already covered by last year’s Tax Working Group.
The working group is to look at changing the whole basis of taxation in New Zealand to a dual approach, with labour and capital taxed differently.
The Tax Working Group looked at this option – which is used in some Scandinavian countries – but advised it needs more work.
Even more radically, the group is to look at indexation of the tax system to inflation, to eliminate the impact of inflation pulling people into higher tax brackets.
The Savings Working Group is precluded from looking at the taxpayer-funded New Zealand superannuation and has also been advised to take note that the government does not want a capital gains tax or a land tax.
It is, however, to review KiwiSaver, its current set of incentives and subsidies, and whether it is to remain voluntary or become compulsory.
The group is also to look at wider issues of savings such as long-term fiscal policy and the government’s debt.
“We have deliberately set wide terms of reference for the Working Group. The only exclusions are New Zealand Superannuation, which this Government will not change, and broad taxation of capital gains or land, which we have previously said we will not introduce," Finance Minister Bill English said.
“Otherwise, we are not ruling anything in or out,” he added.
The Savings Working Group will be chaired by company director and consultant Kerry McDonald. Other Working Group members are:
Dr Craig Ansley - Capital Markets Research director
Dr Andrew Coleman - Motu Economic and Public Policy Research senior fellow
Mary Holm - financial columnist, Auckland University senior lecturer
Dr John McDermott - Reserve Bank assistant governor
Paul Mersi - PricewaterhouseCoopers partner
Stephen Toplis - Bank of New Zealand head of research
The group is to report by the end of January. Working Group members will be paid about $70,000 in total.
Working Group website (including Terms of Reference):
www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup
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Let's see, we want to encourage savings. What are savings for? Hard times? Hell no! that's what the welfare state is for, stupid. Old age? Of course, handy to have some savings when you're old, but if you've got none, and your children aren't sending an AP your direction, there's always NZ Superannuation, in fact it is there even if you do have savings and supportive children too .... Now, where were we? savings, sure to be a reason why we need more savings, it will come to me in a min. Ah, that's right THE ECONOMY stupid! THE ECONOMY needs more savings. Our small little country in the South Pacific needs more savings for its economy. Can't we just import whatever we need at the world interest rate since we're a small open economy? Of course we can opps.. that's a naughty thought, where is that BANISH key? Ok, back to savings, not for hard times, not for old age (except for a little to supplement our NZ Super), and not for the economy, it is for ... geez this is too hard, we just need more savings ok? OK? Must save, for the good of the economy, I mean for your own good, I mean for .. for never mind just save!
memo Bill and John
Maybe if the punters had more cash in their pockets and paid less tax then they might be able to save.
And dont try the old trick. Some of us have no debt pay the credit card every month pay 8% KS and still have to watch the cents to make ends meet.
Try cutting the waste that this and every other Group incurs if you need a start.
Less tax more in the pocket See its easy Dont need a working group to tell you the bleeding obvious
Its all rhetoric. Pure deception to blinker the path to world governmenting through economic destabilisation. Hence, the ETS and the governments lack of messaging on it's impact.
October 1st. It ALL starts. Sorry, All stalls
Lyrics from the Beatles song "Taxman" - "nineteen for you and one for me" referred to the UK tax system at around that time where at one stage it was 49 for you and one for me. Income tax was 83% and investment income above a threshold was subject to an extra 15% (the 'unearned income' surcharge). Effective tax rate therefore was 98%. So in those days, 'unearned income' was, well, unearned, and so warranted a higher tax rate!
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