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Select Committee divided, no report possible on ETS Bill

The finance and expenditure committee has failed to agree on whether the amended climate change bill should be passed after its members argued widely divergent views.

The committee will return the amended climate change bill back to Parliament unchanged. Its views were so conflicting that it could not agree on the content of its report, out today. Instead, it has drafted views from each party.

Climate Change Minister Nick Smith said it was disappointing, but not surprising that the committee was split, with "pure oppositional" stances.

“I acknowledge the timetable for passing this Bill is demanding but more than $400 million per year will be imposed on consumers and businesses from 1 January 2010 – including a 10% rise in power prices – if this Bill is not passed by Christmas. The existing law also has many errors in it that need correcting for our ETS to work."

National wants the bill to go through unchanged and is hopeful of progress at Copenhagen.

Labour said the bill was fundamentally flawed and would make New Zealanders poorer, the economy weaker and would not curb the growth of greenhouse emissions.

It had outstanding complaints to the Ombusdman about Treasury analysis of the long-term fiscal costs of the amendments, which were not released under the Official Information Act.

At the eleventh hour, Treasury officials said the fiscal effect of a higher level of free emission rights for large emitters would increase government debt by 13% to 17% of GDP by 2050 ($110 billion), rather than the 6% to 8% previously advised.

On Friday, a Treasury spokesman told NBR the initial advice in Cabinet papers, provided by the Ministry for the Environment and peer reviewed by Treasury, were based on an assumption of a $25 per tonne carbon price through to 2050.

The latest assumptions are based on a $25 per tonne carbon price to 2012 and $30 after that to 2050.

Treasury was responding to a Carbon News article that said Treasury had told the government it made a mistake in calculating the cost of changes to the scheme.

Former Labour government adviser on climate change, Dr Christina Hood, wrote in a submission that the true cost of changes would be as high as $105 billion by 2050.

The Treasury spokesman said Dr Hood had assumed prices of carbon starting at $25 a tonne and moving to $30, $50 and $100 to 2050.

Today, Mr Smith said figures beyond the first decade were highly speculative and dependant on assumptions about future international agreements, the carbon price and the growth of industry.

"It is true that Labour’s scheme would make billions of dollars post-2018 as a consequence of the very aggressive phase-out of industry support and that the more modest abatement rate in the Bill that is in line with our trading partners means the taxpayer profits less," he said.

“The changes do not mean the Government is subsidising important industries such as agriculture but rather the Government is receiving $2 billion less per year in profit from the ETS from the period beyond 2030."

The Green Party said it regretted having to write a substantial minority report, because key issues in the legislation were not fully discussed by the committee.

The Maori Party said a New Zealand ETS was an incomplete response to climate change.

Its four objectives, about whanau, whenua, the Treaty of Waitangi and the Maori economy would not be met under the scheme, but it is continuing to negotiate with the government.

Act said scientific evidence about dangerous, human-induced warming was still uncertain and New Zealand did not need to lead on policy action, especially considering the US will not have legislation at Copenhagen, Australia's was in doubt and it would hinge on a US-China agreement anyway.

The Climate Change Response (Moderated Emissions Trading) Amendment Bill was introduced on September 24 and passed to the committee for a report due today.

The Committee received 379 written submissions and heard from 128.

The bill proposes to change the way New Zealand Units (NZU) would be allocated to emissions-intensive, trade-exposed industries on an intensity basis by allowing a transition phase till December 2012 and phased out after that.

The agricultural sector’s entry to the scheme would be delayed until January 2015 and would be set at the processor level rather than farm level.

The fishing sector would receive free allocations (to quota owners) until December 2012 (at a rate of 90% of 2005 emissions).

It also proposes a new regulating group to set domestic emissions reduction targets (to specify the target of 50% of 1990 emissions levels by 2050).

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Get to the real issue - this is how we get taxed for breathing isn't it? Al Gore is a fraud. There are about 30,000 scientist that are wanting to sue him for his fraudulent scam on global warming.

The cost of phasing out emissions support over 70 or more years is $110 billion in extra debt at today's dollars.

the other reveue frgone to the Crown is $21.3 billion in the next 17 years from the sale of emissions units.

So the real cost is much higher.

To pay olluters to pollute as usual.
Bill English and John Key should have realised this much earlier: what could they do with another $21 billion over the next 17 years?
Twenty one rounds of tax cuts?
The ETs policy has turned in a farce

At least all this hard earned money will end up in the developing nations where it is needed- of course there is zero curruption in these countries so the money will not be wasted!!!! Yeah right

The story on the Aussis ETS scam is all Agriculture emmissions will be exempt ,thats what the equivalent Party to the Nats have being Negotiating check it out Nick the Greenie in the National Government.

Below are 450 peer reviewed scientific papers that DISPUTE anthropogenic global warming:

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

If the govt. passes an ETS then they are traitors. The worst part is that the alternative to the current govt. is even worse.

THIS IS ABOUT ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT PEOPLE.

ALL OF THIS LOCAL ETS STUFF IS PURPOSEFUL DISTRACTION. BASIC TOTALITARIANISM 101. COME ON PEOPLE - WAKE UP. GO

CHECK OUT THE COPENHAGEN "AGENDA" DOCUMENT THEN ASK SMITH AND KEY THE REAL QUESTIONS

IT HAS NOTHING. NOTHING. NOTHING TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING!

Carbon tax is a scam. That aside why do we seem to be trying so hard to accumulate as much carbon debt as we can? I thought the point was to get the country into credit? Why are we now the ONLY coutry in the world to count livestock? We have 47 Mil sheep, Australia have 100 Mil & the US 100 Mil cows. Why are we trying to pay this stupid tax on this? And why would any sensible person accept that if we do pay tax it will go toward improving China & India's economy!!!!! Like they need help !!! God this is senseless...........

Creation of Debt = requirement to be saved by UN.

= Planned
= Global Government.

Simple stuff

the whole thing is a total scam and should be dropped
we can do without yet another tax

helen clark has got her job and al gore has made his millions so why are we still supporting this farce
key loses my support if he continues to push this new tax!

So, we've learned that the National Government has added $110b (at today's values, $27,500 for every man woman and child) to the future debt burden of taxpayers.

Labour would rather lay that burden on consumers and shareholders. All parties seem intent on creating the burden for some New Zealanders or others.

Don't they like their voters?

When you look into the future, the purpose of the ETS bill is not to reduce emissions, but a carbon trading scheme like the stock exchange. There will be those that will buy and sell and make lots of money. Wasn't John Key involved in this sort of trade???? I think I am starting to see a rat.