Telecom's 'Skinny Mobile' to launch in new year
UPDATED Nov 14: Telecom has confirmed that Paul O’Shannessey has been recruited to head Skinny Mobile.
NBR spoke briefly to Mr O'Shannessey this morning, who said the new mobile service will launch "shortly after Christmas at a large youth event before going on to the general market."
Mr O'Shannessey said Telecom had been working on the new mobile brand for about for about seven months.
Around 20 staff have been recruited for what will be a "standalone" operation inside Telecom.
A leaked web page (pictured below) indicates a focus on the youth and budget markets.
Skinny would run on the same W-CDMA network as Telecom's XT-branded service, and share behind-the-scenes services.
Mr O'Shannessey told NBR he had been an independent consultant for several years before joining Telecom.
His work involved advising large retailers, and more recently websites, on e-tail initiatives. A recent project involved working with YahooXtra on the ultimately ill-fated Hubsta online shopping service, dubbed "Son of Ferrit" by NBR. Hubsta - 48% owned by Mr O'Shannessey and his partner Kelly O'Shannessey - went into receivership in November last year owing $5.6 million.
Skinny would not go with a traditional agency. Instead it would "youth source" much of its marketing.
"You can't market to youth," Mr O'Shannessey said. "Youth sourcing" involved talking to young people, and creating plans that directly reflecting what they wanted, the Skinny boss said. Skinny being layered on top of XT allowed the new player to be "very agile," he said.
Asked about the $4 offer that featured on the leaked web page, Mr O'Shannessey said "there's lots of dummy pricing and plans" on the pre-launch site still under construction.
Friday Nov 11: Is Telecom preparing to launch its long-rumoured sub-brand, aimed at budget buyers?
This afternoon, one of the telco's competitors tipped off NBR to the page pictured above (which, as your correspondent types, is still public here; UPDATE: the page now displays a "Client address is not authorised" message).
The contents of the page indicate a new budget mobile phone service is in the works, called Skinny.
Click to enlarge.
The domain name for Skinny has been registered by Telecom's lawyer for IP issues, AJ Park (last seen in a similar context a couple of years back registering "XT").
An Intellectual Property Office NZ search reveals Telecom has registered the trade marks "Skinny" and "Skinny Mobile".
Defensive move against 2degrees ....
Industry scuttlebutt has long held that the carrier will launch an a sub-brand aimed at the pre-pay users who have been defecting from Telecom and Vodafone to 2degrees. An earlier stab at a low-cost sub-brand, Boost Mobile, was wound down in 2007.
Telecom has previously said it wants to capture more share of the Auckland market. IDC research director Rosalie Nelson told NBR that Skinny could help reel in Vodafone's lead in the Auckland/youth market.
The Skinny page indicates a $4 pay weekly deal - the kind of ultra-budget package Telecom would not want to market under the umbrella of its "smartphone" XT network.
A trendy, distressed look indicates the site, and the service, is aimed at the youth market.
... and offensive play to speed shift from CDMA
A second key reason for Telecom to launch a budget sub-brand: In August, the company said just over a million of its two million or so total mobile customers were on XT.
XT (which runs on a 3G technology called W-CDMA), launched more than two years ago.
Telecom's old CDMA network is due to be switched off on June 30 next year.
With that 2012 deadline fast approaching, Telecom needs to pick up the pace of customers moving to XT. The iPhone 4S will help at the high-end.
But to get a lot of subscribers to move off CDMA in a hurry, a "Skinny" version of Telecom's W-CDMA network could be the key.
Telecom did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The company's shares [NZX:TEL] were flat at $2.69 in late trading, sticking close to their 24-month high.
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Comments and questions37
FYI Telecom has already registered SKINNY as trade mark ...
If I was the competition I'd be worried. Good to see some fresh thinking.
Looks like they may be trying to be a bit edgy. Never been a strong territory for Telecom.
should give them a good "Boost"
So they'll ogreat lower prices to youth through 'skinny'... While XT customers pay more to foot the bill for all the staff and infrastructure? Lucky XT customers.
Bloody amazing - Skinny will take over NZ!
The best news I have heard in a long time!I cant wait for this!
Shoosh
Hi there just letting you guys know that on the epay machines that there is a new option to top up Skinny NZ with $5,10,15,20,30
Vodafone has Smart Prepay plans!! These look awesome you can change over to them now!
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=92957
What a disaster of a name, i guess they aren't targetting fat people as part of their marketing strategy.....
Seems like it went right over your head Shaun. I think it's more of a play on "on the Skinny"... but that's just my opinion.
I'm an XT customer. Are my rates going to be the same as those offered to the customers on the "Telecom Skinny" sub-brand? Or will I still have to pay XT rates even though I'm with the same company?? Will they move all of their XT pre-paid customers over to Telecom Skinny??
LOL - Did they not learn from their PINK FIST incident?!?!
Can fat people join??? another FAIL
maybe I could sponsor this Telecom FAIL
Can you get a data top up for these though ?
I wonder what other fears/angst of youth can be played upon to strike a chord.
A semi clothed, young female, closely aligned with the brand/tag 'SKINNY'.
That's a big tick for the body image issues.
Pricing will drive the market whatever they call it, but they've their heads in the sand if they think "SKINNY' is appropriate.
I hope this helps people think outside their narrow margins of skinny referring only to body type:
Here's one of the explanations of the origins of this term, meaning the "low-down" the "inside information" from: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=skinny
Skinny
A United States Marine Corps term for information. During world war two until the late 1960's, military orders in the Marine Corps were copied on paper that resembled the skin of an onion. It was extremely thin and fragile, and translucent in appearance. Hence, “who has the skinny” or what’s the skinny
@ JP, I'd be surprised to find to 'skinny' in common youth vernacular to be meaning something akin to the 'low-down'.
I believe the intended association is 'thin' as in not much or cheap.
Would be happy if there was no association with body type etc, however the imagery used doesn't help this cause.
When someone says skinny to me, my first thought is skinny jeans. My second thought is skinny dipping. Not sure what either of those have to do with mobile phones.
Web page looks like an ad "seeking exotic dancers" - quite tacky to be honest
And the image of the naked, "Skinny" woman in the ad is just a coincidence, right? Riiiiiiight... LOL
Very good point. Perhaps the marketing peopkle may relook at it, or is that too TUI
Fruit names in mobile/telecommunications seem to work, i.e. Apple, BlackBerry, Orange etc.. Maybe they should use Lemon instead of Skinny? ;-)
They used the Lemon name when Telecom launched the XT network!
I think it is bad to hav a phone just for skinny peeple cos us fattys need phones more so we can sob on each others shoulders
I thing it's kind of bad-ass that they had the stones to use a word that's a little controversial. The triple meaning is defs tounge in cheek. Bring it on!
Laughing that they have chosen a 40+ guy who has no telco experience and who failed at his last business to run a youth brand....
Laughing that they have chosen a 40+ guy who has no telco experience and who failed at his last business to run a youth brand....
Give Skinny a call on 08004754669 from anywhere in NZ!
dont think its a laughing matter for those owed money by Mr O'Shannessey - perhaps thats where the name Skinny comes from - as in "Skinny" in paying his bills
The name SKINNY is awesome - will grab attention and will get people talking like whats happening on the above thread!... mission accomplished!
this is the equivilant of a wholesale customer that happens to be owned by Telecom
I see no spots changing on the leopard. Basically, people are after value for their money. This comment is about the only time you will see 'Telecom' and 'value' mentioned in the same sentence.
So the incumbent duopoly moves to compete with 2degrees, finally. I feel a bit sorry for 2degrees, even though I shouldn't. Telecom and Vodafone have refused to compete with each other on price while 2degrees more than halved the duopoly's prices. Now Telecom undercuts 2degrees by 5 cents per minute. Underwhelming. And matches the SMS price. Don't they know that hardly anyone pays per SMS these days. And because none of them can, for $70, provide the data and the minutes I need, I have to carry a Vodafone smart phone and a Telecom dumb phone. And then I go to Australia, put in an Australian SIM card and see how much more they get for their money.
I have just joined Skinny and I cannot top up because the credit card service is not up and running and I cant find a place that sells the top up vouchers - tried the Warehouse, Zed petrol station and New World in Motueka. Not sure what happens when my initial $4 credit runs out this Thursday. If its aimed at the youth market then its working - hakuna matata .
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