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Telecom pulls all-you-can-eat broadband plan

[UPDATE: See Telecom statement on alternative plans end of main text]

Ralph! We miss you already!

Hot on the heels of Ralph Brayham's resignation, the Big Time uncapped data plan championed by the Telecom head of home services has got the chop.

The news - yet to be made public - was broken early this morning in a letter to members of Geekzone, who had been complaining about performance of connection on the "Big Time" plan (see full letter below).

The letter is from Geekzone member "Doozy", who works days as a member of Telecom's broadband product team, fellow forum member Simon Biddle* told NBR.

Big Time  has also been pulled from the line-up of plans on Telecom's website.

The plan was launched on July 1 last year, and cost $69.95 a month, or $59.95 a month if bundled with other Telecom services.

Overseas, uncapped or all-you-can-eat data plans are the norm. New Zealand is one of the few OECD countries where capped plans are universal.

Ironically, Telecom's fully-owned Australian subsidiary, AAPT, has recently made consumer market inroads by pushing uncapped, unthrottled plans.

Just too hard (and too unappealing?)
But on this side of the Tasman, apparently it just did not work out.

The letter to Geekzone members states that traffic management was just too difficult.

And traffic did have to be managed, for most Telecom customers remained on capped plans. And, complicating things further, Mr Brayham openly admitted that Big Time connections would be "shaped" or throttled, during peak times.

It seems it all got too complicated.

Another possible factor: the type of power-user attracted to an uncapped plan would also be turned-off by the slo-mo potential of throttling. It's likely this phenomenon hindered uptake. (Telecom has never revealed Big Time numbers. Today a spokeswoman told NBR that the "numbers on the plan [are] a very small portion of our complete broadband base of more than 500,000".).

How much more simple - and successful - Big Time could have been if Telecom had followed the uncapped, unthrottled model of its Australian subsidiary. 

Cynics will wonder if the difference was that AAPT faces more competition.

This morning, a spokeswoman for Telecom could only offer that "AAPT and Telecom operate in different markets".

Second time around
Big Time was Telecom's second stab at an all-you-can-eat data plan.

It's previous effort, Go Large, was pulled three years ago after a Consumer complaint about undisclosed throttling led to a Fair Trading Act prosecution.

In December 2009, Telecom was fined $500,000 after pleading guilty to 17 breaches of the Act.

Now, keen internet users - or anyone jealously eying the uncapped plans that are commonplace overseas - will be wondering if they'll ever be a third.

Mr Hospital Pass
The departing Mr Brayham must feel at times like Mr Hospital Pass. His employer has handed him some of its hairier assignments, including the flawed Ferrit, with its incomprehensible browser-with-us-buy-elsewhere model; the above-mentioned Big Time and the hobbled TiVo.

Still, he also leaves with a big gold star on his CV, and for the metric most central to his job. That is, after nearly two years of relentless decline, Telecom's retail broadband market share stabilised at 57% under his tenure - and has held there, against the regulatory tide.

* Name changed to protect Geekzone member's identity.



UPDATE: Telecom has released the following statement: 


"Customers using the Big Time plan will be communicated with in the coming months and given advanced notice before we need to move them to another option. We will look at their average data usage and recommend the best option for them. 

"Those with high data use may suit the Pro plan so from July we are adjusting the price of overage on our Pro plan (monthly plan price of $79.95) which has the largest monthly data allowance (40GB) – previously it was $20 per Gigabyte (GB) and it will be $2 per GB (or part thereof).

"We appreciate that there will be a small number of extreme users who will not be happy with this outcome".

 


 
Telecom's letter to Geekzone members:

Hi all

I wanted to let you know that Telecom’s Big Time broadband plan will be removed from sale.

We are conscious we have a number of customers who enjoy using a plan with no monthly data allowance, that’s why Telecom is the only ISP that has made successive attempts to give customers this innovation. Unfortunately it is simply proving unviable.

The management of traffic on the plan has become particularly difficult and we simply cannot keep it in market.

If you are on the Big Time plan you will receive a letter from us in the coming months with your options and giving you advanced notice before we need to move you to another broadband plan.

If you would like to make a change to your plan today you can call us on 0800 22 55 98 to discuss your options. Otherwise you can sit tight with your Big Time plan until you receive our letter.

Again, we’re really sorry to have to stop offering this product - we tried to do something different and sometimes these things don’t work out.

I will do my best to answer any questions you post here, should you have a question that you feel is not appropriate for posting in the thread feel free to email me on this site

Thanks all

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Comments and questions
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AAPT has had declining consumer broadband connections every quarter for the last 8 quarters.
And its broadband and internet revenue has gone the same way.

Is it really making inroads with flat rate plans - especially versus iiNet and TPG who are adding customers?

When we went onto this plan we went rapidly up to 200-300GB/month, and have stayed there since. I have no idea who in our large household is using so much or for what, and attempts to track down who and why weren't successful. Somehow, 40GB/month seems quite small, and $2/GB for going over is going to cost a hundreds of dollars a month.

How much does it cost Telecom to service marginal demand above 40GB/month? If we pay for the Pro plan, that is already substantially higher than the cost of the Big Time plan. Unfortunately, if Telecom can't make a better offer I'll probably look elsewhere, as I'm sure a lot of Big Time customers will.

I don't know why Telecos insist on having overage charges that are extreme compared to the costs of the base plans. When I worked in a Telecom call centre I took calls from customers on mobile broadband with bills in the thousands from blowing their data caps. 50C/MB for going over just makes problems for customers and the company. Customers aren't happy to have to call up, although if they do, they're glad to speak to someone who, if it is the first time, can generally get off the charges. For every customer who calls up, some will pay up and cancel their plans and probably vow never to have anything like that again. Telecos would probably make more money by having more modest overage charges that are still well above marginal cost, but cost customers say, $50 extra, rather than $500 or $2000.

I think the lofty scottish twits got his head in the clouds with his team of blunderers. They cant seem to do anything right and this move is hell bent on upsetting many to gain nought but stress and angst from families on budgets who will inadvertantly go over on occassions. Appears the problem is Telecoms and their own inefficiencies once again making it look like I can expect to be rorted. Great business model....line up all your loyal customers and secretly kick them hard where it hurts at random and unexpectedly.

Really - Get over it! The same old story a few users screwing it for the rest..

Family's on budgets shouldn't be paying $50 for the internet if things are that tough!

If you need to download hundreds of megabytes of data each month I would question whats being downloaded.. Legal Software??? I don't think so!!

@ Clown: You should be more careful in your criticism. Ilegal software and downloads are not the only thing that eats up bandwidth. If you have a family of four or more and the kids love youtube, just sit back and watch the data get eaten up. Yes, more often than not the majority of power users are seeking the all you can eat options for downloading questionable material. However, if the IPs really wished to tackle that problem then they should not attack bandwidth. They should concentrate on the source of that data and deny its use.

I agree with Pete here. Its nothing to do with what we download. You can watch YouTube (Fully legal) and go through lots of data per month. I have 3 flat mates who are on YouTube all day and we have been using more than 100GB every month.
Telecom has very wrong corporate strategy and can never get things right. Ferrit, push-to-talk, TIVO, CDMA, XT are some good example. I live in wellington and I saw all the marketing hype for Ferrit and saw it fail badly.

Why is it in New Zealand we pay so much for communications. 89 cents per minute for mobile calling? We pay on average 30-40 % more for mobile devices. Have a look what america and Europe pay for the handsets compared to us.

Its not about managing the traffic, its about thinking what customers want and how to make it work. Its getting the systems right and investing in right technology. If other countries can do it, New Zealand can too.

@David Hillary - what on earth are your family doing? Everyone in my house has a laptop and wifi powered phone. And somehow we manage to comfortably live within our 5GB limit! We do endless web surfing, emailing, IM and video skyping. No youtube though so maybe thats it? No torrenting either.

At any rate 200-300GB/month is so far up the curve so maybe thats something you should take yet another look at.

Good luck with finding someone that will do you a better deal than $2/GB! The way you say you'll probably look elsewhere kind of makes it sound like you think $2/GB is out of line but its pretty much what everyone else seems to be charging.

ALD, I've no idea why we use a lot. We have up to 8 adults all with laptops or desktops in their rooms. We used to be fine with 10GB, then 20GB, then with Big Time it's through the roof. As with the Wellington flatmate Amit Singh its easy to use a lot and hard to identify who or what is using it all.

Telecom is a price gouger facing no real competition.
Vodaphone and the others base their chrages on the exhorbitant rates Telecom charges and suck the consumer!

I get that but I'm talking people that are hitting a TB a month. I'm sorry but 500GB is extreme even for You Tube.

You can't regulate where people visit and what they download but with anything - You abuse, you lose!

End of the day it's the cost of international data v making a profit!

That its youtube thats putting the pressure on this service - it just isn't. Its torrents, and people manually adjusting which ports they go in/out on to try and get away from Telecoms traffic shaping.

why is it telecom still thinks they can rule the world. they still think they are a monopoly. apparebtly if your locked into a contract and wanna leave you wobt be charged the early termination charges according to what i asked of telecom on twitter. in my opinion telecom again is losibg its competitive edge. its stupid in these times people wabt certianty not variables. not only that irs just holding nz back from the rest of the world. get your act together

They were abusing the plan by using SSL encrypted tunnels to offshore servers and thereby bypassing the throttles. You can't inspect encrypted tunnels to determine if the payload is P2P, etc

well, there goes tv on demand -- especially as most of this content is hosted in Australia, generating international traffic.

Once there was Go Large unlimited un-capped $40.00 month 24/7
Telecom Oops to many people!! get rid of this we can make more....
Once those on Go Large were ordered to take Big Time plus pay extra $10.00 =$50.00 month 24/7 but will be capped if high usage is reached. What next Telecom Unlimited TiVo downloads for Telecom Broadband customers what the................

I signed up to telecom solely for the Big Time Plan, got it connected on the 20th of this month, all is good until I checked my usage and find is on the 10Gb explorer plan.

I have to ring them, to find the big time plan has been scrapped. With no real alternative. They agreed to take me as a customer, using Big Time, connected me, and then without saying a thing, simply didn't give me Big Time.

what the heck is wrong with Telecom. If there was a cheaper option i'd be switching. I have a family of 6 and we do around 100gb a month with online gaming/youtube/TV

....screw...Telecom.

I have had enough of them doing this, first it was move me from Go Large which I was happy with to Big Time which cost $10 more a month for exactly the same service. Now its dump big time altogether, Im going to move the lot to Voda or Orcon or something, and I am sure I was a profitable customer, my big time usage varied which is why I had it depending on what we were doing that much, some times less than 20gb, sometimes 90gb - never ever over 100 - Avg about 40gb looking back . So the landline + all those other services + the broadband, there is a couple of hundred a month from us they will never see again.

To Telecom G F Y, after 3 years of loyal on time monthly payments and upping things to Big time extra $10, throttled, it is time to move on, Thanks for the free gift to tie me in for another year - I took the wireless MS Keyboard and Mouse. Looking forward to your communication AGAIN!!!!

You might not have a one eyed Scottish idiot in charge but a full vision capable one, who does not know how to treat loyal customers. What B/S are you going to offer us next another $10 EXTRA, because your business planning is not what it should be, for employing people who are out of touch with the industry and its consumers, who cares how much people download and for what, a legal copy of windows or a game downloaded is in the region of 5 GB+, let alone You tube and other on-line document applications and emails 25 MB limit per Email.

Thanks to your arrogant attitude Telecom, you contribute to the mass exodus of New Zealanders to Australia and other overseas destinations and the loss of business to local companies here because you screw over your customers, because of inept and technologically challenged management. XT is a failure because you underestimated the market and the capability of the technology required to deliver a required service, so is GO LARGE and BIG TIME.

What are we going to call the next failed venture EXTRA - BIG TIME??? WTF? The rest of the world is moving to SATELLITE, hell We are moving on to Fibre, a really great leap there, Thank you.

I use 40gb a month not often more, Just liked the flexibility, Im moving to Vodafone , even if it costs me more, they dont deserve my cash , Im happier to support anyone else in the hope they treat customers a little better. but we will see I guess. and I will enjoy the nice headphones Telecom sent me a month ago for loyalty - seems its a one way street.

I guess you would describe our telecom account as one of these heavy users,we do about 300-700 gig a month,but that is because of 3 familys having to use our connection.we live just out side the hamilton city limits and due to telecom's overloading neither of my neighbours closer to town than me can get broadband.we have 6 adults 7 children useing this connection through a bit of wifi magic due to your slack roadside cabinet upgrades.so were not all torrenting and downloading just sharing it around due to your crap network

I reckon the free gift in March to bind me to Telecom for another year was a dodgy trick. They must have known that people on a Big Time plan might leave. Is this legal? I would like to know if the gift only went to Big Time customers or other "valued" broadband customers as well.

I accepted the offer because I knew I wouldn't change to another provider because of the Big Time plan. Now I'm certainly looking for alternatives. If now after scrapping Big Time I won't have a chance to get out of the contract I will leave Telecom early next year for good, that's for sure.

I'm not a power user, anything between under 10GB to about 100GB per month upload/download combined, with an average of 35GB per month over the last year - I just didn't want to worry to go over any maximum limit and pay extra or be throttled down.

In other comparable countries broadband is charged by speed only, not by data traffic. That's quite a step backwards. Very disappointing.

I reckon the free gift in March to bind me to Telecom for another year was a dodgy trick. They must have known that people on a Big Time plan might leave. Is this legal? I would like to know if the gift only went to Big Time customers or other "valued" broadband customers as well.

I accepted the offer because I knew I wouldn't change to another provider because of the Big Time plan. Now I'm certainly looking for alternatives. If now after scrapping Big Time I won't have a chance to get out of the contract I will leave Telecom early next year for good, that's for sure.

I'm not a power user, anything between under 10GB to about 100GB per month upload/download combined, with an average of 35GB per month over the last year - I just didn't want to worry to go over any maximum limit and pay extra or be throttled down.

In other comparable countries broadband is charged by speed only, not by data traffic. That's quite a step backwards. Very disappointing.

...Telecom is a very rich company thanks to the network which was paid for by taxpayers for generations, and then was privatised in a stroke of genius!

This is so stupid... I am so sick of hearing men and women of 'middle age' complaining about people abusing the system. The system is always trying to steal from us, this isn't some charity being abused. We are more than 5 years behind OECD countries when it comes to home broadband. Content delivery nowadays online needs unlimited broadband, there are plenty of legal things that might be 10+GB, such as if you are buying your games online through Steam, or if you are buying movies through iTunes or another service. I don't want to steal anything I just want the content truly 'on demand' without having to pay for shipping or packaging - if the stuff I wanted to watch was on TV I would just record it on my MySkyHDI unit, but the fact is it isn't.

As an article in NPR recently expressed, many people are only downloading things 'illegally' because it is not available through normal distribution or if you can order it from overseas it takes ages and is unfairly priced - this is the fault of the distributors of the content. Someone I know is an advisor to the UK Govt & is on the board of the UK Treasury and when the Hollywood Studios came to try to bully the UK Govt into searching out 'downloaders' and prosecuting them (at the Govt's expense!) he told them to stick it up their arse because it was completely their fault for trying to hold onto an old distribution model rather than getting in front of the problem and being the ones to make the content available online legally. Bottom line they are just too greedy. But SURPRISE SURPRISE in NZ when the execs came we just Kow-Tow'd to them and agreed to the demands of foreign industry executives. What a croc.

This is just absolutely ridiculous and I am just not going to bother with a broadband plan again until someone has the guts to offer something fair.

hahaha thats what the rest of the word does when they find out about what we pay and how Telecom keeps getting away with crap like this when they ask me to change ill be changing alright ive had it with Telecom when the plan went from the go lage to the big time my speeds droped to under 56kb it was 3 weeks of emails and they just keeped saying its not them its your computers crap it was them slowing me down they never said sorry or gave my money back then it was tevo or what ever you call it as so as it started my speed went back to under 56kb this time two weeks to sort out they told me it wasint tevo crap later on i found out it was there tec guys did something wrong no ring or any money back on that one too i use 10gb to 100gb sometimes less then 10 as the speeds have been so slow on the big time plan when i was on the go lage i some times used upto 160gig most people only go on the net for 30 minits to look up there email so 5 gig would be fine but if your into looking up site with video or flash games downloading games u buy looking at google maps photos and so on 100gig is not alot at all most web pages are just under 1 meg now days with there ads and crap also theres your uploads too like emails if your just saying hi your email will be bigger all in size but at videos and photos next thing you know your emails 20 to 40 megs big then webcam chatting mate i could go on and on all im saying is now days 100gig goes no where for alot of people grrrr

This is an outage and this is totally unfair. Why is Telecom doing this to us Big Time consumers of New Zealand? Anonymous' posting, Disappointing, has definitely hit the nail on the head and I agree that other countries charge broadband based on speed not traffic. Where is the consumer's rights of us clients and why is the government not doing anything about this? With a bloody rip-off and shame on you, Telecom!

I have no idea how much really our family is using, but with the online gaming, Tivo, TVNZ Ondemand via the PS3, VPN'ing into work and a Teenager who lives on the internet I reckon its a hell of a lot more than 40GB. We use to live within a 20 Gb Allowance after which it would cut our speed but switched to big time so I didn't have to bitch and moan about why the allowance got eaten up in 3 days and I spent 25 days at dial up speed.

Im not looking forward to a return to that.

Way to go telecom, now people hate you for muckng around with XT and cutting the unlimited broadband plan! Great come back.

You've lost another customer.

I use WebGauge (http://www.webgauge.co.nz) to keep track of how much data each person in the household is using. It works well, and is reasonably cheap too.

Bigtime was perfect for large flats like mine because it stoped all the conflict about who was using what and when (especially when somone downloade alot and blew the cap). You can never monitor everyones usage perfectly in a situation like that so instead everyone in the flat has to pay for it!

Why are Kiwi businesses so arrogant and greedy that they treat us like idiots with their lies? Are we so gullible? Just because we are geographically isolated is no excuse for artifially high charges. By limiting our options they are just milking us to get the maximum possible return, and to hell with customers that have nowhere else to go! So I can't help wondering what the possibilities are now? If Telecom is the best on offer we are pretty stuffed? And what does it take to become an internet provider? Are we being had there as well? I'm not gonna go on about my overseas experience but none the less i am shocked by the poor quality of internet access in New Zealand! Does anyone know of any alternatives? I work with film media and currently use about 300 gig a month mainly in uploads. Perhaps i should move back to sending hard copies through couriers.. might be cheaper even... Or i might even consider moving my business overseas.. Sad but true, the temtation is huge. And please don't bother hgitting me up with redneck comments. cheers.

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LOL well vuze a bitt torrent client has teleco built in to there syetem every download illegal sh*t i download 100 gig of bluray ripz a day telecom nos they dont give a flyin F

I'm already on the Pro Plan, 40 GB/month and I find it's not enough, I'm not a gamer but you'll find that even watching all the great tv shows on tvnzondemand will blow through your allowance pretty quickly, take for instance two 1 hour shows is around 1.4 GB and that's already a chunk of your allocation gone right there.

Don't think that because you don't download that your allocation stays untouched.

I also like legally downloading paid movies from the internet and that eats up the other half of my allowance.

It's just too restricting, and my brother who lives in silicon valley in the US who pays $30/month for an all you can eat, uncapped buffet of broadband makes me jealous. Why oh why are we soooo behind?

When I joined the Pro plan the operator told me 2c per MB for excess usage and I was shocked, she told me that it worked out to be $2 a GB, I said "you obviously don't know how many MB's there are in a GB". I told her it was $20!!!, I couldn't believe it so whenever I watch anything online, I will religiously check my broadband usage every few hours, it's crazy having to ration and budget your allocation because I'm so scared of going over the limit and that's where your horror sized bills come from.

Just 10 GB's over, which is easssssssy to do equals a crazy $200 bill on top of the $79.95 you already pay.

Come on Telecom, step up to world standards, you have to be more competitive in todays market.

You be good to your customers and they'll reward you with loyalty because I gotta tell you, www.world-net.co.nz is looking pretty good right now.

90 GB per month for $89.95.......sounds like what I need, heck I'm already paying $79.95 for 40 GB, so for an extra $10/month and I get an extra 50 GB!, and their excess is only $2/GB, something I can live with as opposed to Telecom's $20/GB.

Step up Telecom if you want to keep customers!!

That's all I'm saying.

Peace out.

I'm already on the Pro Plan, 40 GB/month and I find it's not enough, I'm not a gamer but you'll find that even watching all the great tv shows on tvnzondemand will blow through your allowance pretty quickly, take for instance two 1 hour shows is around 1.4 GB and that's already a chunk of your allocation gone right there.

Don't think that because you don't download that your allocation stays untouched.

I also like legally downloading paid movies from the internet and that eats up the other half of my allowance.

It's just too restricting, and my brother who lives in silicon valley in the US who pays $30/month for an all you can eat, uncapped buffet of broadband makes me jealous. Why oh why are we soooo behind?

When I joined the Pro plan the operator told me 2c per MB for excess usage and I was shocked, she told me that it worked out to be $2 a GB, I said "you obviously don't know how many MB's there are in a GB". I told her it was $20!!!, I couldn't believe it so whenever I watch anything online, I will religiously check my broadband usage every few hours, it's crazy having to ration and budget your allocation because I'm so scared of going over the limit and that's where your horror sized bills come from.

Just 10 GB's over, which is easssssssy to do equals a crazy $200 bill on top of the $79.95 you already pay.

Come on Telecom, step up to world standards, you have to be more competitive in todays market.

You be good to your customers and they'll reward you with loyalty because I gotta tell you, www.world-net.co.nz is looking pretty good right now.

90 GB per month for $89.95.......sounds like what I need, heck I'm already paying $79.95 for 40 GB, so for an extra $10/month and I get an extra 50 GB!, and their excess is only $2/GB, something I can live with as opposed to Telecom's $20/GB.

Step up Telecom if you want to keep customers!!

That's all I'm saying.

Peace out.

all you people who proclaim
"I've had enough, I'm moving to another ISP"
sadly changing I.s.p's isn't an answer as Telecom still own the hardware, if you change service providers your just giving your money to another company who in turn give it to Telecom (minus their share)
i was told this by a telco contracted tech. who was testing my line speed, i asked him how he/telecom felt about the recent (at that time) unbundling announcement to which he stated "makes no real monetary difference to telecom as the currently own all the inground wiring/exchange, cabinets, server farms, etc so in the end no matter who your service provider is, telecom still make money"
kinda makes you realize how bad the decision to privatize the sole tel-co infrastructure of a nation was.

1st- offer a service to the public for $49 per month
2nd- months after establishing clientele in the thousands, rename
the same service something similar but equally flashy &raise
the price $10
3rd- cancel the service and give clients
3 options -pay more for less service
-pay the same for even less service
-cancel your account altogether

i mean,.... telecom know they hold all the cards... there's nothing we can do unless we all boycott telecom isp petition the government to buy back the telco hardware or impose even heavier sanctions on them to trade fair
and lets face it all these options (and unforeseen options) are moot as "we the people" are too lazy to change this, the government have more important things to talk about like who charges what to their government credit card and telecom cannot change their business model because it is after the fact a private profit driven company, as telecom state themselves, there are only a few thousand people on this affect plan so what chance do we have to affect a positive change even if we all band together , telecom can not just tell their shareholders " your gonna be getting less for your shares so people can get uncapped broadband...sigh....the future of New Zealand Internet looks bleak

Well, I've just received the letter re: end of Big Time plan and spoken to three Telecom employees who really couldn't offer me anything other than an extra $8a month credit for a year so I'm off to Orcon! And if they try and stop me because we took their pocky gift as a bribe I'll take it further! You're not telling me they didn't know they were going to biff Bigtime! Telecom still hasn't never learnt that basic lesson - the customer is always right.

Have a look at what UNLIMTED means...

They are idiots, I am leaving this time to much BS with this bunch.

Have spoken with most of the family they are the same.
Home line. BB, and 3 mobile phones .. gone... And i am saving money.

I told them where they could put it, very nicley when they offered it. I have never regretted that decision

World net offers an unlimited plan, similar to telecom. And I think slingshot has a similar plan in targetted centres.

I am writing to express my disappointment at the removal of your EVDO data service. I cannot believe that once again, Telecom is unable to continue to provide me with the service for which I have been paying. I struggle to understand how you can try to offer me a reduced serviced at the same price (in effect trying to forcing me to change to a network I do not trust and that you admitted yourselves, has been badly implemented) and expect to retain any of the last remaining vestiges of customer loyalty that I may have felt for your company.
2 years ago I bought the Okta Touch. It does all I wanted and more. Finally I had a product from your company that did what it said it would. Actually, I do not use the phone very often for voice calls or texting. It is the wireless broadband that I use. Yes, the very same service you now intend to discontinue.
I was not informed at the time of purchase that my new phone would not be compatible with the new XT service which was just around the corner at that stage. I did buy some accessories at the time, one of which was a mini-usb to 3.5mm stereo jack adapter so that I could use normal headphones with the phone and plug it into my car stereo system. One year later I wished to purchase a replacement. By now I was no longer surprised when, at first, no one knew what I was talking about. I was even told that the adapters did not exist. Upon producing the evidence (my old adapter) someone finally went to see if they could locate them. The adapter that had once cost a reasonable $9.99 now cost $29.99. I ordered it and one month later renewed my order as it seemed to have disappeared. Two weeks later the adapter arrived - It did not work. The replacement arrived a week later - it did not work. The multi-million dollar company in whom I had place my trust was unable to provide an adapter for the phone they had sold me and I was told I they (you) could do no more.
The adapter I bought on Ebay cost around $50.00 in the end. This was nothing compared to the run-around, misinformation, inconvenience, wasted travel time and incompetence I experienced trying to obtain the adapter from your telecom shop.
Now you intend to close down the only service that I have genuinely been satisfied with and you offer $200.00 compensation for unkept promises. The fact that you state that I will continue to be able to access the internet means that you are having to maintain a service. To then turn around and say that this service will be reduced but still cost me the same is insulting.
I believe that the time is rapidly approaching that there will be a parting of our ways and it will not be that another provider has lured me away but because you lost my customer loyalty through circumstances of your own making.

I'm a taxpayer and a Telecom shareholder. I'm annoyed at the cancellaton of the Big Time plan. It was the uncapped data that attracted me. I have no need of additional speed.

So when the government invests $1.5 billion to run fibre past my home and some rep comes knocking on the door wanting to sign me up to connect what's the answer going to be? Obvious. I have no need. And I suspect the same will apply to most residential homes in NZ. Without sensible and quite inexpensive data limits there will be no residential demand for fibre so it's a wasted investment.

Just read the posts. Residential customers aren't generally complaining about the speed it's the cost of data. It's the content. Much better for the government to invest in removing whatever bottlenecks are causing the high data prices than deliver unaffordable data faster!

I really wish Telecom would stop treating it's customers like complete idiots. They have experience in the broadband business for many years and to say that they had to cease the Big Time plan due to problems managing their data filtering is complete hogwash. The fact is Telecom's only true responsibility is to it's shareholders who in recent times have been under increasing strain due to Telecom's business changes and the recent (highly publicised) XT debacle. Also, in order to win their share of the government's proposed fibre network roll-out they need to claw back on current costs and increase profits in the interim so they looked closely at where cuts can be made. The Big Time plan was the obvious choice for slashing.

Like any big company they have to dragged kicking and screaming into change and despite them trying to sell modern broadband products they have yet to shed their archaic image and erratic decision making.

Yes Telecom needs to make profits like any sensibly run company should, but to willingly sign up tens of thousands of customers to their Big Time plan with the promise of unmetered data usage and then to simply dump them is at best deception by stealth and at worst disgraceful business practice. Shame on you Telecom. I guess some things never change.

In response to Anonymous | Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 8:54am

I have recently tried the new broadband plan from telecom on a trial version and it's a great thing: the browsing and the download speed are very much increased and the safety of the network is also state of the art, The improvements in the dll file extension segment of the network have given users a great amount of liberty as far as the navigating is concerned. No more waiting for page loading, as the cache used by the network can store huge amount of information from all it's users so the access speed is very much increased!

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