Warner Bros sought job law change to film The Hobbit in NZ

Warner Brothers used the threat of filming The Hobbit movies elsewhere to gain changes to New Zealand's employment laws, it was reported tonight.

An email obtained under the Official Information Act showed the production company wanted "stability" to film the movies in New Zealand and was worried about "grey areas" of employment law, Radio New Zealand reported.

The government secured the movies in October by an urgent amendment that prevented independent contractors from claiming entitlements as employees, as well as an agreement to increase the tax concession for big screen productions.

The report said the email was signed "Peter J" – apparently director Sir Peter Jackson – and was sent to the office of Economic Development Minister Gerry Brownlee, who was involved in the negotiations with Warner Brothers.

It said there was no connection between union action against The Hobbit movies and choice of location, which contradicted government statements at the time that said Warner Brothers was concerned about strife caused by the blacklisting of the movies because of a row over collective pay conditions.

Union opposition was withdrawn after an outcry from New Zealanders who would lose their jobs if the movies were not made here.

The report also said Warner Brothers executives who came to Wellington to negotiate the deal were worried about being questioned by journalists.

Another email to Mr Brownlee's office said they wanted to enter through the Beehive basement to avoid the media.

The negotiations took place in Prime Minister John Key's official residence, Premier House, with the media excluded.

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Does everyone protesting in favour of the films feel stupid now? Idiots.


Exactly. The world doesn't owe us a favour, we've got to get out there and earn it.


Another example of John Keys teflon weak leadership.

He is so reactive and intent on being a popular leader rather than robust assessment of situations - sometimes requiring tough decisions that may not be popular.

His supporters including me are very disappointed with his leadership to date
Hopefully 2011 will see him become a real leader to get NZ out of trouble and on a good footing for our future generations, not just for ''today'.


The only reason Key has such a high approval rate in the polls is that there is no competition.

If Labour had a real leader like David Cunliffe, John Keys ratings would plummet overnight.

The problem with John Key is that he is starting to believe himself and his own importance rather than the Johm Key we all voted in. At least with Helen Clark it took 8 or 9 years for her to get her head stuck where the sun don't shine - not John


david cunliffe! ahhhhhhhhhahahahahahahahahaaaa


David Cunliffe - that's a good observation.

Warners would not have found him such a push over.... as Telecom NZ didn't.

Honestly I think Goff would make a great number two though.


all this about a fairy tale film?


What we must understand is that the Left wanted the films lost offshore so they could then blame JK and the Government for losing them and the attendant unemployment.

the Left are so easy to read. they want to wreck the economy so they can blame the governent. they are traitors and muist be dealt with as traitors. Exterminated with extreme prejudice


All of Jackson's films are derivative formulaic rubbish. He hasn't a creative bone in his body.

He is to filmmaking what McDonald's is to haute cuisine.


So Peter Jackson, John Key and Gerry Brownlee were all involved in lies and deception to help serve the financial interests of Warner Bros and attack unions?

NOT a good look.

With 'transparency' the truth emerges........

Penny Bright


Candidate Botany by-election 2011


Scandalous! That it takes an off-shore commercial entity to highlight just how ambiguous our employment laws are – so they can get some surety around their investment.

That is all the rest of us want; however this uncertainty happens almost every day, in every-day employers lives – and should they get a single aspect of employment law “wrong” it costs tens of thousands in lawyer fees just to defend any accusation – regardless of merit or validity.

Should the employer be found “guilty or in breach” of any of the employment law statutes, clauses or not to the complete satisfaction of the ERA / employment courts – the employer is often fined several thousand dollars – all for attempting to build a business and employ honest, hard working people.

Yet, recidivist criminals with belligerent intent are only ever slapped lightly with a wet bus ticket by the courts. Go figure? Where has “Natural Justice” in NZ gone? Did it f*ckofski to Australia with common sense?

The sooner National clean-up the complete ineptitude Labour left in its wake regarding employment law the better it will be for NZ Inc.


Another scandalous Labour law cleaned up by the Nats.


Nothing ambiguous about our employment laws, they are pretty much the same everywhere in the western world. Its not ambiguity Warners objected to - they just don't like the law.

All of this is irrelevant to the story anyway which is that key players in the hobbit dispute lied and opportunistically used the actors dispute to shaft a weak populist government that cares nothing about democracy.


Of course the unions were totally blameless sweeties - a******es


Chris Carter must be furious that he missed the chance to greet the warner brothers men at the the backdoor (to the beehive).....Roll on Bottany bielection, where no doubt penny "no so" bright will continue her spouting ideology - come on Andrew Little, make Penny your candidate officially rather than a faux-independant.
well done to JK and GB - a bit of clarity to the law, and low and behold JOBS !!!!


When he's called Dave. Cunliffe hahahahaha the same Kommissar caught at New Lynn Mall slapping his kid around immediately post-Bradford. Choice :)


Metaphorically speaking arch fabianazi Goff has always reminded me of 'number twos' althought Cunliffe's penile eyelids really give me the creeps braahahahaha.


Genetically off the meds seemingly Penny.

The wires appear crossed completely where every single point you make on having anti-corruption frameworks is lost in the contradiction of whom you see imposing (imposing being the operative word) it. e.g. You still fail to answer 1 fundamental question which, ironically, relates to the corrupt partnership between the 'big business' you fear/envy/hate AND your corrupt UN.

When will you focus your 'anti-corruption' 'all-transparency' attention to that of the most serious sovereign problem New Zealand faces: that being the emissions scam? Where's your ideads on that? Or happy to turn a blind eye to that one Penny? Or is the answer as to where the money goes, with this corruption, better revealed in the Wiki-Leaks?


Thankfully not genetically hardwired to reproduce.


What i like about the left is how they front up saying what they are doing for the poor beneficiaries and poor/middle class - yet busy lining their own pockets FIRST... Still double dipping Mr Goff ?? nothing that needs to be addresses urgently ?? yeah ... go hard you people in the left and those blind supporters.


Well done with this brilliant format, very much easier to read, especially the comments..


This was my 9/11 post:

So - '1,393 verified architectural and engineering professionals' demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation of 9/11 are 'pathetic idiots'?

FYI and consideration folks!

'Freedom of expression' - the importance of keeping an 'open mind' and 'seeking truth from facts'.

Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.

A couple of simple thoughts from a former Welding Tutor with Advanced Trade in Sheetmetal Engineering (me):


1) If the heat from burning airline fuel (kerosene) can melt steel - how come your kerosene heater doesn't melt when you light it up?

(er... heat generated by burning kerosene 990C / melting point of steel 1550C ?


2) Pick up a block of concrete and drop it on the ground.

How does the impact cause the concrete to turn into clouds of pulverised dust?


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(Looking forward to a lively and informed debate on this one!

Buried deep within the steaming mounds of ad hominem and abusive diatribe?

Come on all you brave 'Anonymous' lot!

Fill your boots..............



1. have you ever watched cricket and seen the hot spot, it is where teh leather ball hits the bat causin friction and heat.. A plane flying into a building with explosive fuel on board will create more heat than just teh fuel burning, how much i don't know but maybe 1551C.
2. Ah it was not only dust left at ground zero, there was a lot of concrete there too. How about you drop your concrete block 250m or however high the twin towers were? It might make a little bit of difference in the outcome.

Work is probably a bit slow for all the architects and engineers and winning the independant review would be a great contract for them to compete for so of course they are keen to see some government funded investigation.

I think it is hilarious that a consipiracy theorist is running for government, what if you win? Will you spend all your time investigating everyone or do you actually have some policy of your own?


Penny you have been outed as a communist!!! if your lot had been victorious YOU AND THEY would have denied us our freedom yet you endeavor to infiltrate Botany. As a communist you have demonstrated your corrupt immoral nature and disdain for individual freedom.

Throughout history there have been two basic forms of social organization: collectivism and individualism. In the twentieth-century collectivism has taken many forms: socialism, fascism, nazism, welfare-statism and communism are its more notable variations. The only social system commensurate with individualism is laissez-faire capitalism.
The extraordinary level of material prosperity achieved by the capitalist system over the course of the last two-hundred years is a matter of historical record. But very few people are willing to defend capitalism as morally uplifting.
It is fashionable among college professors, journalists, and politicians these days to sneer at the free-enterprise system. They tell us that capitalism is base, callous, exploitative, dehumanizing, alienating, and ultimately enslaving.
The intellectuals’ mantra runs something like this: In theory socialism is the morally superior social system despite its dismal record of failure in the real world. Capitalism, by contrast, is a morally bankrupt system despite the extraordinary prosperity it has created. In other words, capitalism at best, can only be defended on pragmatic grounds. We tolerate it because it works.
Under socialism a ruling class of intellectuals, bureaucrats and social planners decide what people want or what is good for society and then use the coercive power of the State to regulate, tax, and redistribute the wealth of those who work for a living. In other words, socialism is a form of legalized theft.
The morality of socialism can be summed-up in two words: envy and self-sacrifice. Envy is the desire to not only possess another’s wealth but also the desire to see another’s wealth lowered to the level of one’s own. Socialism’s teaching on self-sacrifice was nicely summarized by two of its greatest defenders, Hermann Goering and Bennito Mussolini. The highest principle of Nazism (National Socialism), said Goering, is: "Common good comes before private good." Fascism, said Mussolini, is " a life in which the individual, through the sacrifice of his own private interests…realizes that completely spiritual existence in which his value as a man lies."
Socialism is the social system which institutionalizes envy and self-sacrifice: It is the social system which uses compulsion and the organized violence of the State to expropriate wealth from the producer class for its redistribution to the parasitical class.
Despite the intellectuals’ psychotic hatred of capitalism, it is the only moral and just social system.
Capitalism is the only moral system because it requires human beings to deal with one another as traders--that is, as free moral agents trading and selling goods and services on the basis of mutual consent.
Capitalism is the only just system because the sole criterion that determines the value of thing exchanged is the free, voluntary, universal judgement of the consumer. Coercion and fraud are anathema to the free-market system.
It is both moral and just because the degree to which man rises or falls in society is determined by the degree to which he uses his mind. Capitalism is the only social system that rewards merit, ability and achievement, regardless of one’s birth or station in life.
Yes, there are winners and losers in capitalism. The winners are those who are honest, industrious, thoughtful, prudent, frugal, responsible, disciplined, and efficient. The losers are those who are shiftless, lazy, imprudent, extravagant, negligent, impractical, and inefficient.
Capitalism is the only social system that rewards virtue and punishes vice. This applies to both the business executive and the carpenter, the lawyer and the factory worker.
But how does the entrepreneurial mind work? Have you ever wondered about the mental processes of the men and women who invented penicillin, the internal combustion engine, the airplane, the radio, the electric light, canned food, air conditioning, washing machines, dishwashers, computers, etc.?
What are the characteristics of the entrepreneur? The entrepreneur is that man or woman with unlimited drive, initiative, insight, energy, daring creativity, optimism and ingenuity. The entrepreneur is the man who sees in every field a potential garden, in every seed an apple. Wealth starts with ideas in people’s heads.
The entrepreneur is therefore above all else a man of the mind. The entrepreneur is the man who is constantly thinking of new ways to improve the material or spiritual lives of the greatest number of people.
And what are the social and political conditions which encourage or inhibit the entrepreneurial mind? The free-enterprise system is not possible without the sanctity of private property, the freedom of contract, free trade and the rule of law.
But the one thing that the entrepreneur values over all others is freedom--the freedom to experiment, invent and produce. The one thing that the entrepreneur dreads is government intervention. Government taxation and regulation are the means by which social planners punish and restrict the man or woman of ideas.
Welfare, regulations, taxes, tariffs, minimum-wage laws are all immoral because they use the coercive power of the state to organize human choice and action; they’re immoral because they inhibit or deny the freedom to choose how we live our lives; they’re immoral because they deny our right to live as autonomous moral agents; and they’re immoral because they deny our essential humanity. If you think this is hyperbole, stop paying your taxes for a year or two and see what happens.
The requirements for success in a free society demand that ordinary citizens order their lives in accordance with certain virtues--namely, rationality, independence, industriousness, prudence, frugality, etc. In a free capitalist society individuals must choose for themselves how they will order their lives and the values they will pursue. Under socialism, most of life’s decisions are made for you.
Both socialism and capitalism have incentive programs. Under socialism there are built-in incentives to shirk responsibility. There is no reason to work harder than anyone else because the rewards are shared and therefore minimal to the hard-working individual; indeed, the incentive is to work less than others because the immediate loss is shared and therefore minimal to the slacker.
Under capitalism, the incentive is to work harder because each producer will receive the total value of his production--the rewards are not shared. Simply put: socialism rewards sloth and penalizes hard work while capitalism rewards hard work and penalizes sloth.
According to socialist doctrine, there is a limited amount of wealth in the world that must be divided equally between all citizens. One person’s gain under such a system is another’s loss.
According to the capitalist teaching, wealth has an unlimited growth potential and the fruits of one’s labor should be retained in whole by the producer. But unlike socialism, one person’s gain is everybody’s gain in the capitalist system. Wealth is distributed unequally but the ship of wealth rises for everyone.
Sadly we live under what is more properly called a mixed economy--that is, an economic system that permits private property, but only at the discretion of government planners. A little bit of capitalism and a little bit of socialism.
When government redistributes wealth through taxation, when it attempts to control and regulate business production and trade, who are the winners and losers? Under this kind of economy the winners and losers are reversed: the winners are those who scream the loudest for a handout and the losers are those quiet citizens who work hard and pay their taxes.
As a consequence of our sixty-year experiment with a mixed economy and the welfare state we have created two new classes of citizens. The first is a debased class of dependents whose means of survival is contingent upon the forced expropriation of wealth from working citizens by a professional class of government social planners. The forgotten man and woman in all of this is the quiet, hardworking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen who minds his or her own business but is forced to work for the government and their serfs.
The return of capitalism will not happen until there is a moral revolution in this country. We must rediscover and then teach our young the virtues associated with being free and independent citizens. Then and only then, will there be true social justice in New Zealand.


wow......imean wow!I've never heard it put so well.I'm an american and i wish YOU were the one.

that was impresive.



Penny believes 911 was an inside job!

Penny supports Hamas

Penny is/was a member of the Workers Communist League!

Penny is a wannabe totalitarian

Google Penny + communism (Wairapa Maoist ALL the way)


I seem to have stumbled across a corporatists blog site where rational debate has been replaced with insult and other ad hominem attacks. Wouldn't think of correcting your certainty of superiority. Besides it would just bring up cooperative strategies which you have reserved for the corporate class. I will point out that bankrupting governments to allow for hostile take over by financial interests is a deliberate plan issuing from Norquist and the neocon master minds of the Chicago school. They have been implementing it at least since 1972 and have recently outlined such an overt strategy for bankrupting several states governments in the US. Seems to be working in Ireland, Greece and Spain so why not California? There is that little issue of how such an approach subverts democratic process but hey, that's just collateral damage from the corporatist's perspective I assume.


Better Chicago School than Frankfurt School!


Why are you SO mean you wacists?

Don't you know that 911 was a conspiwacy by the CIA and the Jewz and that Hamas and me want to help the communitarians, ahem, community to save NZ from wacist capitalists!!!

Once the UN globalist agenda in skoolz has converted your children we will have PEACE...the red slumber and peace of the POST-DEMOCRATIC global unity.

Sheeple of the world UNite behind my wed banner of anti-wacist twuth and social justice.

Wadical Justice for the (non) workers!

Penny Bright
Hamas Lover
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Penny 'dumb as a bag of hammers'


"The only social system commensurate with individualism is laissez-faire capitalism." - Laissez-faire capitalism is'nt a social policy stupid its an economic system.

If capitalism creates prosperity whats going on in the US at the moment? Mass unemployment and a lack of economic growth. Yet China with its socialist economic focus is booming? Hmmm.....


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