Member log in

Brash compares $1.5b govt fibre plan to Think Big follies

The Don Brash-led Taskforce 2025 team has many radical recommendations for closing the gap with Australia, but spending more on broadband is not one of them.

The taskforce compares the government’s ultrafast broadband project to the Think Big follies of the Muldoon era.

The government plans to spend $1.5 billion over the next 10 years - with private partners chipping in at least that amount - to deliver fibre optic cable to homes, schools and hospitals.

“The Taskforce has no way of knowing whether economic returns would, in fact, exist for investment of this sort undertaken at this stage. But it is not clear that government officials or ministers do either,” the report says.

“In that respect, it is not obvious what marks out this initiative from, say, some of the numerous government commercial investment projects undertaken over the decades, including, for example, the Think Big projects.”

Don-gone it
Newly appointed NZX director Rod Drury - speaking as chief executive of his software company, Xero - was furious at the finding.

“I actually met with Don during the [report] process and I’m shocked that he could be in 180-degree disagreement with almost everybody else,” Mr Drury told NBR.

The Xero boss said he’d hoped better broadband would have been flagged as one of the key ways that New Zealand could close the gap with Australia.

“We’re the furtherest country away from anywhere else. This is our chance t connect to the global economy; to close the gap with Australia and everyone else.”

Thought we'd moved past this
Mr Drury was annoyed that “there are still senior people with influence don’t understand how the digital world is changing. We don’t have a national technology plan and we’re losing the opportunity to invest money the right way”.

Australia is ... wrong
In Australia - the country that we are, after all, trying to close the gap on - the government is spending $A43 billion (that is, more per citizen) on a similar public-private fibre-to-the-premise roll-out.

Dr Brash is unimpressed.

“We recognise that the Australian government is also spending considerable amounts of money on an initiative like this, but we have read and heard serious critiques of the quality of the decision-making on that project too,” says his report.

“If good economic returns actually do exist, in prospect, it is not obvious why private providers, individually or collectively, would not invest to capture them, rather than sharing the benefits with the Crown.”

A long-time Act supporter, Mr Drury has long maintained that broadband is as vital to national infrastructure as roading, and that the government should step in to push things a long if the short-term interests of a single private telecommunications company are hindering business growth as a whole.

As such, he is in vigorous opposition to Taskforce 20205 report’s finding that

Doesn't get it
Telecommunications Users Association boss Ernie Newman also met with Dr Brash during the review process. Mr Newman is currently in Europe. But before he left, the chief executive’s hopes weren’t high. The Taskforce 2025 head just “didn’t seem to get it”.

Today, Mr Newman told NBR, "The economic and social benefits arising from general purpose technologies such as railroads, electricity and broadband are always impossible to quantify precisely in advance.

"This is because the usages are not developed until after the technologies themselves are available to the masses. Historically, implementation of such technologies has depended on visionary people seeing the potential and being willing to make a leap of faith.

"Reticulation of electricity for example, would never have come about if society had waited until somebody first invented the microwave oven, air conditioner and electric toothbrush."

A taskforce falling in the forest
But although Mr Drury is annoyed by Dr Brash’s report, he can take comfort from the fact that prime minister John Key has already flagged that he will ignore most of its recommendations.

And communications minister Steven Joyce has already ignored the findings of two major reports that have promoted copper over fibre.

Mr Joyce has said that only 100Mbit/s fibre connections can keep New Zealand internationally competitive, and provide services that he would have appreciated when a business owner.

The minister said he appreciated that telecommunications companies were acting in the interests of their shareholders. But left to their own devices, they would take too long to upgrade beyond slower copper networks, harming New Zealand’s business performance overall.

"Ultra fast broadband requires a leap of faith," said Mr Newman. "Fortunately today's political leaders have the vision to make such a bold move."

More by this author

Signup to free NBR email alerts here

Comments and questions
10

Thank you for keeping our leaders honest, or at least making them answer some awkward questions. Funny how it is the old guys who get to make the decision when they don't really understand what they are deciding on. I'll bet Don just doesn't understand why people get so worked up about connectivity....because he thinks connected is about who you see at the club.

The Auckland city council has spent millions on renewing all the footpaths throughout auckland, if they are going to install fibre to everyone they will have to dig them all up!!
My Woosh wireless works fine so what is the point of all this??

brash for PM.

there is zero point in spending on broadband when the ets, broadening the tax base and key/englishes goal to cripple NZ through mad debt...leads NZ a position of ruin.

few will

a) be here
b) have any case to utilise it.

we'll be washing in streams and using smoke signals to communicate.

I am sitting here wondering why I used to have some respect for Brash. Vision obviously isn't in his vocabulary. The BB initiative is as importan,if not more ,than the new power cable to feed Auckland
( its basic infrastructure for the future , which no private company showed any interest in.)
Why Brash agreed to have a report in by Oct 30 on such wide ranging review beats me. The Tax Review group has a much narrower review but has worked at least twice as long on it.

2025
Oh my god I have diabetes can't feel my fingers, kids out of work, no super or ACC. But hey I can watch Youtube in real time.

the tax review group's directive, put simply, is "work out ways to sell to NZ the best ways of crippling them".

Last time I took Chris Keall to task about supporting government investment in broadband projects that were not commercially viable, he basically conceded they weren't commercially viable, but that they should be done anyway. That was about 9 months ago.

Mr Newman should get to know the sordid history of government railway involvement before using them as an example of governments being social benefits. Some US states made 'internal improvements' unconstitutional because they were so much economic waste and political corruption. Even the present rail system in NZ is not commercially viable, and should be broken up with the land going to higher value uses in many cases, and the few routes that are viable remaining. This is another home truth pointed out by Brash: Tranzrail should have been left to go under and been liquidated, instead of being effectively bailed out, and giving us another white elephant.

Auckland already has extensive fibre infrastructure and pre-laid ducting. There's no need to dig up the footpaths - but there needs to be a willingness to spend on the CPE and Core Networks.

The sooner politics is taken out of this issue and nonsensical debate the better. The government want to wade into a sector they know nothing about and think they're equipped with the skills to effectively or efficiently manage such complex and continually evolving technology infrastructure sector with yet another cumbersome bureaucracy... the paradox is truly laughable.
To make matters worse, the assembling a gaggle of grey-haired political has-beens to fuel this fire with their 'input', based on redundant and irrelevant 2006 IRD and Stats NZ figures while ignoring contrary views from industry experts, is shear madness... Brash could even keep his emails secure on his prime ministerial computer for god's sake... what could he possibly contribute to this debate that is of any value or relevance?
The Telcos are already investing in fibre and high-speed infrastructure and half the country has already been laid. Surely if the finance minister is to be believed, the coming decade of consecutive deficits and ballooning debt would mean $1.5B would be far better spent addressing this issue, rather than duplicating a fibre national network and trying to compete with the Telcos... let them take the risk if they can see it's commercial viability. At least they know how to run such a complex model.

Does Steven Joyce even know why he's so vehemently hung up on emanding 100mbps broadband? I'd love to hear his reasoning if anyone can elaborate on this for me.

The fact is even 1/3 of that speed is more than enough for the average person to do everything they could possible hope to do online for the next 20 years... HD video already streams in realtime, audio even quicker, sending of files the size of which would make 100mbps necessary is the domain of designers, film/tv producers etc delivery to FTP sites... the average person can't send an email that's larger than 20meg to another person's account so why so much emphasis on 100mbps?

So what if some people only have highspeed VDSL2 via copper and not fibre... even with these speeds an unsuspecting users would blow their monthly data cap in 3 days (as movies, music, media etc arrives so quickly that the tendancy is to do more of it) and then drop dead of a heart attack when their first bill arrives in the mail containing all their additional data usage charges. Plenty of ISP's love that trap for unsuspecting customers that's for sure.

Post new comment or question

Login to use your NBR member name
Full HTML is not supported but you can use the following tags in your comments:
Link: <url>link</url>
Quote: <quote>text</quote>