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Chris Keall



iPhone on XT: take II - it's a success, and simple

Keallhauled has just returned from Telecom, where it was demo'd how easily a Vodafone-bought iPhone can be transitioned to run on XT.

An iPhone, bought new at a Vodafone store, was taken out of the box. The Vodafone SIM card was extracted, using the simple, paper-clip style tool that comes with every iPhone (pictured; I know it's dull, but they wouldn't let me video anything).

Next, an XT SIM card was inserted, then one setting changed (by selecting Settings/General/Network - making sure the  Enable 3G box is checked at that point - then Cellular Data/APN and changing the APN setting by typing internet.telecom.co.nz.

The whole process took less than a minute, and I could immediately make voice calls, download iTunes songs (which began streaming almost immediately) and watch YouTube videos (which again only took a couple of seconds to cache then ran smoothly). A kick play with Google Earth and Google Maps revealed snappy streaming, with near instant redraws.

That is to say, no software hack was required, and no docking to a PC nor connection to iTunes. Only the simple setting change described above.

Telecom will sell SIM-card only XT accounts from May 29. Once you buy your SIM card, the telco says it's your business what you do with it. But you could, for example, do what we did this afternoon and pop it into an iPhone.

Deconstructing the fail
Telecom still has no carrier settings uploaded to iTunes, and won't while Vodafone remains Apple's only official New Zealand carrier.

So what happened during our epic fail last week, as NBR found itself embroiled with an iPhone that demanded carrier settings be download?

A rep for Telecom says the APN trick will only work for an iPhone bought from Vodafone (the iPhone involved in our epic fail came directly from Apple; not for our network-hopping experiment, I should add.).

More specifically, the iPhone must be bought from Vodafone New Zealand, which does not lock iPhones, or any handset it sells (unlike Vodafone Australia, and other telcos that also sell the iPhone).

Our mutual friend Steve visited Telecom too, and the team there also got his iPhone - the one that was the subject of the fail - working on its network, albeit with a couple more tweaks (it's my duty to relay that as well as emanating from the other side of the ditch, that iPhone did not have 3G data enabled; it had unwittingly been locked to 2G). After downloading a speed test app, Steve hit 900Kbit/s (more speed tests, and speed test provisos, here).

I did also get my Nokia Navigator working on XT - also through simply tweaking the APN setting - but Nokia asked me to point out that it was running on XT's 2100MHz band which, unlike its ubiquitous 850MHz, is only available in some urban areas.

An official iPhone through Telecom?
Anyhow, enough of the SIM card skulduggery. Does Telecom have an iPhone coming through official channels? After all, consider that:

1. Vodafone NZ's iPhone deal is not exclusive.

2. Apple favours multiple carriers - in Australia, there are three.

3. Telecom is steeped in self-described Mac Men, from boss Paul Reynolds, to the iPhone-totting head of Gen-i Chris Quin, to ex-Apple manager and now head of Telecom Broadband Ralph Brayham to the ex-Apple staffer who showed me the SIM card switching routine today.

So all the ingredients are in place.

Is any deal in the works?

Apple wouldn't comment.

Telecom says its lips are sealed until it unveils its full handset line-up this Wednesday at 10am (tune in to Keallhauled for details).

Reversal of fortune
Incidentally, in a sign of the times, I also just heard from Nokia that its new flagship E series smartphone, the E75, will be available for Telecom's XT network first - from May 29 - then Vodafone from the end of June. (There will actually be two iterations of the E75; identical for all intents and purposes, but with one supporting Vodafone and 2 Degrees' 900MHz band and the other Telecom's 850MHz. So: no SIM card hopping in this case).

It's definitely good to see Telecom customers finally getting access to some decent handsets beyond the (cough) Okta.

But until we see Telecom and Vodafone's pricing for the E75 -  remembering that one Aussie telco is apparently going to carry it for zero dollars up front on a $A79/month contract - we can't safely say that we've entered a brave new world of competition.

Anyhow, more news on that front Wednesday at 10am.

Meantime, check out the trailer for the new Peter Jackson/Neill Blomkamp alien flick District 9.

Comments

Telecom handsets

Telecom won't have the iPhone. It's too small and poky and its new network is untested for Apple to trust it with its brand.

If Apple doesn't trust them, should you?

and why are TelstraClear sales reps telling customers they'll have the iPhone later this year?

@Telecom Handsets

The above childish comments are exactly what I'd expect from an uninformed Voda fan boy.

Saying that "Telecom won't have the iPhone. It's too small and poky and its new network is untested for Apple to trust it with its brand."

Umm read below nope the iphone uses the same spectrum as XT and as such is a natural choice for using on the XT network over Vodafones network

You say:" "If Apple doesn't trust them, should you?"

Do you know for a fact who Apple does or doesnt trust??? I doubt it. Refer to my comments about the poster of this drivel being an igorant Vodafone fanboy. Its not as if any iPhone owners have had a fantastic experience on the Vodafone network, so be careful throwing stones when you live in a glass house....

Pointless debate aside, lets look at some facts and inject some reality back into things:

The iPhone uses 850Mhz/2100Mhz spectrum for 3G operations - Telecom's XT network uses 850Mhz and some 2100Mhz - XT fits the iPhone like a glove

Vodafones network is 900Mhz/2100Mhz for 3G so the iphone will sort of work when and if it can see a 2100Mhz cellsite. The iPhone does not support 900Mhz spectrum for 3G

850Mhz gives a significantly larger amount of coverage compared to 2100Mhz (I understand that the coverage from a single 850Mhz cellsite is equal that of up to 4-6 2100Mhz cellsites) so iPhone users should theoretically have a far more robust 3G coverage experience on XT compared to Vodafone.

Because 2100Mhz cellsites dont have the same coverage capabiulties as 850Mhz and the iPheone doesnt do 900Mhz 3G iPhone users on Vodafones network will often find they drop from 3G to 2G depending on their proximity to a 2100Mhz cell site, and as such will often be stuck with slow 2G mobile data speeds. Rural and regional iPhone users are even worse off will usually only get 2G as the bulk of Vodafones 3G rural coverage uses 900Mhz which the iPhone does not support for 3G.

Further making matters worse, switching from 2G to 3G can also result in dropped calls. XT is 100% 3G so failed calls and droipepd data sessions resulting from 2G to 3G handovers is not an issue.

Thankyou

data card

can you test the XT chip on a voadfone data card please, I'll lend you mine in you need one

Telecom Handsets

They are called Okta because all the other 4 letter words were used. I hate my Touch

re: telstraclear and iphone

Telstraclear use telecom's mobile network to provide mobile phones to customers.

I believe that telecom said they would not give telstraclear access to its new network until 2011, so telstraclear are negoitating (or have negotiated) access to vodafones mobile network instead.

This may be why reps are saying will be able to get an iphone on telstraclear later this year -- telstraclear will switch from using telecom's newtork to using vodafones.

Phew!

Blair you're so full of .... where's the proof? Even if TelstraClear did get an iphone, it'd go like a dog with fleas on vodamoans (sic) "newtork" (is that what frogs do when they want to say something?)...

Show us the proof or are you just blowing smoke???

@ Blair

I would bet with 99.99% certainty that the new iPhone - coming out this year WILL come out in to versions - 850Mhz/2100Mhz UMTS for Telecom's Network & 900/2100Mhz UMTS for Vodafones.

So your statement about the speed differences between networks will soon be incorrect, as both networks will provide 97% Coverage to 3G services to where New Zealanders live, work & play.

Also, both network providers have stated they will have speed capability of upto 21Mbit by Christmas - device dependent.

Will be lining up at the

Will be lining up at the Telecom store on launch day to swap my iPhone over, Voda coverage is abysmal, was for Pearl and is for iPhone. I only hope XT delivers otherwise going back to smoke signals

iPhone 3g only

Go to this website. And your iPhone will be on 3g only and speed will be over 1mb constantly over Voda 3g.
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=76&TopicId=33661

Because iPhone has hardware

Because iPhone has hardware problem with its antenna and wifi module. You need to manually tweak it. And make sure your iPhone is jailbroken. And yes I will ditch my iPhone for a new WM from telecom store on launch day. I will test my iphoe on xt network first. Then I will know the difference in speed between tnz and Voda. Make sure you have constant coverage before you apply the trick above

Wuh

My Win6.1,GPS , EVDO A enabled touch works just fine .. perhaps its the user?

"can you test the XT chip on

"can you test the XT chip on a voadfone data card please, I'll lend you mine in you need one"

You are more than welcome to bring it to the Telecom Store, Mate! Let the truth to help u sh*t the mouth.

Cheers

XT APN Settings

You can go to http://www.unlockit.co.nz (when connected via wireless) and you can download a profile which will set the Telecom (XT) APN into your iPhone.

Settings such as MMS etc will be in the profile in the future as well when the iPhone V3 of the software comes out as well.

@ Matthew

Your Vodafone Data Card will not work on the XT Network as it doesn't support 850Mhz UMTS, which is what Telecom's Network is based upon.

Telecom do you use 2100Mhz UMTS in some cities for extra capacity - but where exactly is not common knowledge.

A vital factor that people easily forget and/or don't know

Doing Speed tests on Telecom's new XT Network & comparing these to Vodafones Network is highly biased towards Telecom - as Telecom's Network has next to no customers on it - where as Vodafone's has over 500,000......

It will take quite some time for the Telecom Network to get this amount amount of customers onto their network - so until that happens then any speed test on Telecom's Network should be taken with a grain of salt.

@ G

Yes however Telecom's network is also running on reduced power.....

vodafones 900Mhz doesnt help

When they are only deploying it in rural areas - in my house - despite seeing a vodafone 3g site from outside there is minimal usable 3g signal from them in the basement - good GSM signal, but who cares about 2g. And great telecom signal as well. So even if there is a 900MHz iPhone, its still useless for people that want to use it in buildings until vodafone install 900MHz 3g equipment in non rural locations

@ Dave

Do you currently have a 900Mhz UMTS device? I'm thinking you don't.

900Mhz UMTS actually has far superior building penetration than 2100Mhz UMTS.

As for Vodafone deploying 900Mhz UMTS in the cities in the future - who knows - but my bet is that due to most of their customers still using GSM, that will be some years away yet.

Vodaphone has also been

Vodaphone has also been running 3G for a few years - I would have expected better by now.

I'm HYPED

This is going to be amazing - good bye voda pre-pay sim, hello nice telecom plan!

iPhones are designed to be run on 850MHz so it's going to be faster and far better than the current patchy Voda 3G coverage.

Does anyone know if Telecom will buy peoples Voda contracts off them?

Keep (most) the profits in NZ :)

shame

vodafone3g = GSM network, telecom XT = GSM network. get real people, they both use the same network, but offer different plans/mobiles. using the same network, bout time telescum caught up. by the way, the same issues 3g had xt will.

No SMS

As of launch day all iPhones on the XT network cannot receive SMS messages, they can send SMS and send and receive calls but no receiving of SMS messages

A Fix is currently being looked into

Iphone XT troubles

I'm connected to telecom on my iphone but i have no service??? I've changed the APN to internet.telecom.co.nz im not sure what else i can do?

Can anyone help?

It Works

I just changed my iPhone to the XT network and it works great!

sms on iphone

Has this been fixed?...I tested mine and seemed to send and receive SMS messages but wondered if this was the norm?

Only "issue" (no biggy) i have noticed is you cant change the Voicemail to call Telecom..just have to dial it yourself

What about data costs?

Can anyone let me know the data costs on the new XT network? any idea on Prepaid XT costs?

Wrong! :P

Haha epic fail about your comment!

About coverage here in australia

Here in australia the 850 mhz and 900mhz is about the same range from a tower and optus far greater coverage then vodafone and 2100 mhz is used in the cities and the iphone works well with telstra 850 mhz and optus and vodafone uses 2100 mhz on the iphone and most iphone owners that are on networks that uses around the uk europe australia and new zealand should be able to get iphones that uses 900mhz 2100 mhz. iphones should come out in a quad band version by now or have a version 1 and 3 like nokia do i would buy an iphone if it was a 900mhz and 2100 mhz or quad band 3g but i went off and got a nokia n96-1 insted

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