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Vodafone, Sky TV get closer - but don’t go all the way

Denied! Sky TV and Vodafone did not unveil a broadband content deal this morning, as your correspondent had hoped - although both sides did make some revealing comments (keep reading).

The pair did announced a deal that will see the telco pay a Sky TV customer’s $15 a month MySkyHDi rental if they have their landline and broadband connection with Vodafone on a $90 (5GB cap) or $100 (20GB) plan.

The deal, which kicks in from December 7, does not include the $10 a month HD Ticket, necessary to receive HD (high definition) versions of Sky TV channels.

The two companies already have a marketing and single billing alliance, which was announced in June, displacing a similar arrangement between Sky TV and Telecom, which is being phased out.

And for several years, Sky TV has provided content for Vodafone’s mobile TV service.

What’s holding back IPTV?
There was a bumper turn-out at the Vodafone-hosted Auckland launch of the new deal this morning, with speculation rife that the two companies would announce an IPTV alliance for delivering movies and TV shows on-demand over an unmetered internet connection - a la Telecom’s alliance with the one-third TVNZ-owned TiVo.

Afterward, NBR asked Sky TV boss John Fellet what was holding IPTV back.

One qualifier is that there have to be around 200,000 MySky boxes in the market to make such a service economic to Sky TV, Mr Fellet said. But with around 70,000 installed each year, that mark is fast approaching.

But other than that, it’s purely up to the internet service providers, said Mr Fellet. If Vodafone (or Orcon or CallPlus) comes to him ready to offer unmetered data (that is, movies and other downloaded content would not count toward a monthly cap), he’s willing to hit the Go button on IPTV.

Irreconcilable difference
It’s unlikely that Vodafone will be one of those ISPs.

“I don’t believe in IPTV,” Vodafone NZ chief executive Russell Stanners told NBR immediately after the launch.

The Vodafone boss said there was some demand for downloadable movies, but he did not see it as a killer app, or a business that his company should be in.

Mr Stanners was also down on unmetered data.

“All data costs something,” said the chief executive.

Any reduction in customer churn (Telecom claims its TiVo alliance could cut defections by 50%) would not make up for the cost of such as service.

Mr Fellet was philosophical, saying the immediate focus had been on getting a bundle together that Vodafone could promote ahead of Christmas.

See Vodafone's pitch for its Sky TV promo here.

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Could this go in the annals of the stories we well remember like Tom Watson of IBM who said there was a world market for around 5 computers?

I haven't used it much but I can watch TVNZ replays on my Orcon account for free. Whilst Orcon aren't a Mobile Operator, they are still using Telecom infractructure to deliver it.

Only my humble opinion, but if Russell doesn't believe in IPTV, he needs some new advisers. He's not just strictly in the mobile business any more. Isn't Voda now also using the same unbundled exchanges tat Orcon uses?

I get all I need off the internet.

It's already out there. It's easily available. It's free. It's simple to access and it's better quality.

Oh, it's illegal, don't get me wrong, but the days of waiting for Sky or TVNZ or TV3 or anyone to decide when I can watch something are over.

Vodafone and Telecom and the other telcos can try to hook up content deals all they like, but it's too late. Those that want the content already find it.

Mind you, it's Sky that has no future, not Telecom or Vodafone. I don't need someone to provide my content to me but I do need someone to build a network so I can access it.

the economics of IPTV leave satellite or terrestrial for dust - then there's the little things such as being able to deliver content to niches or to have shows that'd only go to air via traditional broadcasting once or twice a year being able to be viewed whenever the customer wants to see them... IPTV is nimbe traditional broadcast TV is a dinosaur

Totally agree Luigi - Voda need a new CEO who does believe in IPTV!
Not just your humble opinion, the whole planet is moving away from physical media. If you're not on, or steaming via the net soon you'll be gone, regardless of your size. Keep up Russell.

[To be fair, Russell was also saying that people want everything on the internet - not just a few movies or TV shows. Telecom might have told analysts at its recent results session that it will cost "almost nothing" to deliver TiVo on-demand content, since it is all cached locally. But Russell was saying this morning that even local caching costs money. And that if people want open slather to YouTube etc, then it's going to cost a lot more, with international traffic charges kicking in. - CK]

RE: "He's not just strictly in the mobile business any more. Isn't Voda now also using the same unbundled exchanges tat Orcon uses?"

Vodafone have more unbundled exchanges throughout Auckland (41 - I understand) than Orcon & a couple in Wellington already. Vodafone call it the Red Network, utilising ADSL2+.

Its all old, or sports.

Bittorrent serves so much more - the extra 50-60 gigs a month is less than what sky would cost me and gets me stuff I want to see at a relativly timely rate.

Now, if we were to get hulu as provided in the states with out having to mess around with a VPN to get around content restrictions, that may be of interest, but if its the same sky crap on a different media, who really gives a toss?

Given their mutual market dominance, it would have been like a meeting of two gorillas, with each being surprised when the other wouldn't bend over :)

Re comments about bit torrent above. Although I am a mysky customer, I haven't watched a scheduled movie for months. Everything I want I get via torrent sites. And no law is going to change that. Period .

I suggest Sky Tv should look at specielist IP providers, such as WorldxChange.

I know these guys have put a lot of effort into their IP network and their access and availability are up there with the best.

A more focussed and agile provider would be a better option than going with a large telco who would lose focus eventually...

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