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TVNZ – why we deleted TVNZ7 shows from Ondemand

UPDATED with comment from Russell Brown end of story.

Erstwhile Media7 host Russell Brown was surprised yesterday to see the show had disappeared from TVNZ Ondemand.

"So without telling us, TVNZ has scrapped all the TVNZ7 ondemand," Brown tweeted.

Other signature TVNZ7 programmes, like The Ad Show, Back Benches, Talk Talk and Greg King's The Court Report, have also disappeared from the state broadcaster's website video service.

Everyone's knows why TVNZ7 ceased broadcasting last month. Labour gave it limited funding. And when it ran out, National was not of a mind to renew it.

But why not leave the channel's programming on TVNZ Ondemand?

Spite?

Not at all, says TVNZ spokeswoman Megan Richards.

"It had nothing to do with Media7 becoming Media3. We’re pleased the show has found a home," Ms Richards told NBR ONLINE.

"Most TVNZ 7 shows – about 100 – were removed from the site when the channel closed a couple of weeks back. Four shows stayed online for a period of 14 days after closure: The Court Report, Media 7, The Big Idea and Back Benches.

"The idea was to give people a last chance to catch up with anything they’d missed.

"Our experience is that viewing is highest in the week of transmission but drops off sharply after that, particularly if the shows are topical, so the two weeks incorporated a bit of a margin."

But why delete them at all?

"We’re more sensitive than we used to be about leaving material online indefinitely because we do have to pay for data storage.

"The decision to remove TVNZ 7 programming from Ondemand on the closure of the channel was made months ago as part of the preparation for closure – basically to tidy up loose ends."

(Some ends still need a bit more tidying. The Court Report is still featured in Ondemand listings, but yields only a gobbledygook error message). 

Some shows that originally screened on TVNZ, like Emily Perkins' The Good Word, remain Ondemand.

There are other bits and bobs that will remain on the service.

"These are either shows that will be re-screened on [Sky TV's] Heartland, or were kept as a component of the TVNZ7 educational facility The Learning Hub, which will remain available online until next year," Ms Richards said.

Media7 on YouTube, other shows not
"I'm cheered to learn that the issue is solely one of storage space at TVNZ, which suggests that the YouTube instances of Media7 will remain," Russell Brown told NBR ONLINE this morning.

"But it's a shame that The Court Report, Backbenches and Talk Talk aren't in the same position - that's quite a lot of knowledge and political speech disappearing all at once."

Meanwhile, Mediaworks ondemand manager Jared Nielsen has made a public offer house the Media7 back-catalogue on TV3's site - if it gets permission from TVNZ (the state broadcaster's Ms Richards did not dismiss the notion out of hand; the person who could address the issue is away untiil Friday, she said.).

Another outside possibility - Media7 might turn up on the ondemand service recently launched by Choice TV (the new Freeview channel backed by Top Shelf Productions, the same company that makes Media7, among many other shows).

Some NBR readers will think, What they hey - who cares what happens to a bunch of talkie liberal shows from TVNZ7? 

But this mini-controversy highlights an interesting issue: what happens to digital content (which is forever) as channels come and go in the fast-moving new media environment?

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"We’re more sensitive than we used to be about leaving material online indefinitely because we do have to pay for data storage" Put it on youtube then, free easy and could generate a profit.

They should consider using Megaupload!!

"we have to pay for data storage" lol

Hey, don't mock it. An extra terabyte might cost them $100!

Pity there's no place you can upload such things for free, like Utube. I'm sure putting it on MegaUploads and just having the link on the tvnz page would also have been possible even if we had no swat raided the owner.

Are TVNZ too stupid to google UTube?

Sounds like time to reconcile some peoples' pay with their "performance". But that will never happen because tvnz is not for the value and benefit of the nation and its community. We gave up on quaint ideas like that when we went stupid for making short term quarterly profits over long term well being and utility.

They need room for more MasterChef & Come Dine with Me?

wonder if the tech supplier suckered them into paying for licensing as $/GB?

I am not voting for national next election (whenever that is) because of the TVNZ7 removal.

Why would you not be equally mad at Labour for time-bombing TVNZ7 funding? National was always going to take advantage of any "out", and Labour gave it one.

Because national had the opportunity to make the decision right and chose not to.

If it was so good why did only 3 men & a dog watch it? (on a good night).
Fact is viewership was little to non-exsitant & it would have survived if it had any material following - & I as a taxpayer don't see i should pay for for you & a couple of others to get your jollies. go read a book.

You are welcome to any opinion you like but not any fact you choose to make up. TVNZ7's viewership numbers - and the ongoing lies about them by various parties - have been adequately explained elsewhere.

Prize for the most ill-informed comment on this subject goes to ....... oh, you didn't leave a name . I wonder why ?

I know three blokes that watched it. Does that make me the dog?

TVNZ 's direction and management is now on the verge of anarchy and total subservience to the very lowest common denominators of the marketplace.

it's desire to maximum ratings at any price, the main casualty of which is programme and news standards, has sunken it a new nadir.

Tourists to NZ that I have in taxi cab are appalled at its banality and wonder where its professionalism is and why it is so bad.

Now we have news presenters proffering editorial comment on news items, as in the weekend Super 14 games and even a sports presenter, who sub coached the Mystics last year, proferring her biased and subsequently wrong views from her presenter's platform, on the playoffs of the ANZ Netball competition.

It may be unfair to Neanderthals, but even a pre homo homo sapien species, could run a better television service than TVNZ. It's just unintelligent, plain dumb, rubbish.

Zombies, maybe???

When the likes of Coronation Street and Desperate Housewives command the number of viewers as they do, you have to reason that, TVNZ is catering to what the viewers want: dreck.

TVNZ7 could have been saved by simply allowing advertisers.

I tried to book on-demand advertising for TVNZ7 shows and was told I couldn't because of the channels charter.

Stupidity.

TVNZ7 in my opinion was the only way to target an intelligent audience.

they have to pay not just for base storage (cheap) but CDN [content delivery network] storage as well which is the expensive bit

which is why they should utilize the youtube partner program more effectively.

Ziln has also offered to host and screen this content for free on its' new Ziln Seven Channel about to launch - with great speed via local NZ CDN.

Why not upload it to NZ On Screen?

NZ On Air should make it a condition of public funding for all TV programs that the resulting program must be available for free community access in perpetuity through NZ On Screen. A proportion of the funding [0.5-1%] should be allocated to NZ On Screen for this purpose so storage and archiving costs are covered. There can be a window of exclusive use by the broadcaster, but it should go into the public domain no more than 365 days from the first broadcast. The program belongs to the funder [the taxpayer] not the broadcaster..

Interesting concept - and I like the idea of a small percentage of NZ On Air funding being earmarked for storage/online.

I don't know if it's as cut and dried as the taxpayer owning the content though. Broadcasters would argue that they have also had to chip in funds to top up NZ On Air funding in most cases. They also have to forgo ad revenue that more commercial content would have generated.

Then simply change the funding model so that taxpayer funds cover 100% of approved programs and those programs have the archiving condition and an archiving fee withheld. For programs 100% funded by the broadcaster, a copy should still be deposited with NZ On Screen to meet their obligations of legal deposit as any other publisher must do with print material. Copyright law should then apply, with an incentive by way of tax deduction for the broadcaster to allow free public access. It's not hard.

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