China raises extradition for expat criminals with Peters at Apec

Foreign Minister Winston Peters says the issue of corrupt individuals wanted in China and domiciled in New Zealand did "seriously come up"

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi has raised with his new New Zealand counterpart, Winston Peters, the extradition of Chinese nationals facing corruption and criminal charges.

Long an ambition of Beijing, the issue of an extradition treaty has stalled because of New Zealand's opposition to China's extensive use of the death penalty, including for commercial crimes.

"The issue of corrupt individuals wanted in China and domiciled in New Zealand did seriously come up," Peters told New Zealand media in the Philippines capital, Manila, where he is accompanying Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern at the East Asian Summit meeting hosted by the Association of South East Asian Nations (Asean).

The pair moved yesterday from Da Nang, Vietnam, from the annual Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation leaders' summit, to Manila as part of Ardern's first outing on the international stage.

Mr Peters said he had raised the precedent where a "most wanted" Chinese national, William Yan also known as Bill Liu, had been convicted in a New Zealand court of money laundering funds obtained corruptly in China. In that case, Yan was sentenced to five months' home detention in New Zealand and repatriated assets worth $42 million to China.

"That was a very successful case and they understood that," said Peters. "That will be a serious precedent in the future. I think it's fair enough for us to co-operate with them, providing of course that they don't execute anybody as a consequence of our action."

However, Mr Peters stopped short of supporting opening extradition treaty negotiations with Beijing.

"I would consult with my colleagues in the government to make sure we were all on the same wavelength," he said at a media conference where Ms Ardern said she would be raising New Zealand's "dim view" of the use of the death penalty in her bilateral meeting Monday with the Chinese premier, Li Keqiang.

Ms Ardern also has formal meetings scheduled at the Asean summit with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Indonesian President Jokowi Wadodo and the president of the European Council, Donald Tusk.

She did not formally meet Chinese president Xi Jinping at Apec and is not meeting US president Donald Trump formally at either meeting.

On the prospects for the stalled negotiation of a free-trade agreement with India, Ms Ardern said advancement of the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement, which includes India, was seen as a "quicker route" for improved trade ties.

She would reissue a long-standing invitation to Mr Modi to visit New Zealand.

A meeting of ministers in the RCEP negotiations is occurring on the sidelines of the Asean summit, with Agriculture Minister Damien O'Connor representing New Zealand.

She is also seeking a further meeting with her Australian counterpart, Malcolm Turnbull, where she has turned up the heat in the past two days over the need for progress on the plight of some 600 asylum seekers on Papua New Guinea's Manus Island, where Australia has been holding them. A humanitarian crisis is unfolding as the detainees protest the closure of the facility where they have been held, citing personal safety fears.

(BusinessDesk)


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Well I for one would like to know just how many of these so-called ex-pat crims are living here. Not that any will ever be sent back. The pc brigade wouldn't stand for it.
Meanwhile Ardern wants to spend all her time offering to take in a whole load of queue jumping "people" into NZ. All at the taxpayers expense, I might add. How come she, and all the goody goody types don't offer to take them all in, and house them at their expense. I object to my taxes being wasted in this way. Our own people should come first.

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If only National were still in, to be strict with money launderers and China's most wanted criminals. Oh, hang on. No, they sat for nine years and let a number of China's most wanted list hang around in NZ, to the point of even getting citizenship and being able to avoid deportation.

Many agree that our own people should come first, that's why they voted against National. Because National's simply been selling NZ out.

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What gives Ms Ardern the right to raise "....New Zealand's dim view of the use of the death penalty", when she meets the Chinese Premier?
That may well be HER view....but a survey of all our friends, shows she certainly doesn't speak for the majority of law abiding citizens in this country.

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Or for me. When I see what some of these home grown animals get up to around the place, I'm all for bringing the death penalty back in. Especially for these heinous crimes that seem to be the norm these days.

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Great minds think alike! My hubby was only just saying on the weekend, "How much safer this country would be if someone like Rodrigo Duterte was leader of NZ First."

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Have been living in the Phillipines with Durerte in power,my god this country needs a bloody wake up call, none of this stuff we have in NZ would last five minutes over there,no pc rubbish, we need to make some monumental changes, cops I've seen carry automatic rifles everywhere, dont even think of committing a crime you would be shot.

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Yup, we're certainly with you there Gary - sounds like Rodrigo has completely transformed the Phillipines with his positive no- nonsense approach to wiping out crime!

But it's also like my hubby reckins, "Maybe we just need to give Jacinda a little time to settle in.....she's only been in the job 3 weeks"

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Where to begin. Hard to have an intelligent debate with sopmeone who thinks that extra judicial killing is honky dory.

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Agreed, as someone who has lived in the Philippines for a number of years...I just shake my head at this nonsense. What sort of numpty finds Duterte to be a reasonable solution, rather than an aspiring final solution?

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Those who accuse and have never sinned cast the first stone?

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Many US States have the death penalty and the NZ Justice system and Crown Law are bending over backwards to get Kim Dotcom extradited to the US.

Where's the consistency here?

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Lucky for KDC that JK is no longer in charge. I was starting to get the impression even Nuremberg may have been an option.

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Name one case of copyright fraud resulting in the death penalty in the USA.

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If they are indeed criminals and have committed serious crimes in China then why not send them back to face the courts there. Crimes were committed in China, only right they should face justice there.
Otherwise NZ will look like a haven for criminals.

KDC is only wanted to copyright violations in the USA yet JK send in armed airborne assault team and fights tooth and nail to get him extradited.

If Aust an send us back our crims, we should be able to export some back to China, or India or wherever...

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