Groser calls for 5-year ban on cross-border carbon taxes

New Zealand has proposed a five to seven year moratorium that would stop World Trade Organisation disputes challenging certain climate change policy.

Speaking at the Royal Institute of International Affairs at Chatham House in London last night, where he is engaged in bilateral meetings ahead of the Copenhagen Summit, Trade and Associate Climate Change Minister Tim Groser said the moratorium would allow space to implement climate friendly policies.

It would also explicitly rule out unilateral border tax adjustments – a very bad idea likely to spark a trade war, he said.

European countries and China have said they would retaliate against the US if it tried to do this.

The tax adjustments – proposed to counter ‘leakage’ or the risk of reducing competitiveness and the loss of jobs and production to countries that do not face a price on carbon – could in theory protect against imports that are not subject to a price on carbon.

But the problem was in distinguishing between compliant and non-compliant countries, he said.

The Kyoto concept of a final audit of compliance at the end of the commitment period was likely to survive (into the second commitment period starting in January 2013) and New Zealand would not know whether it met its Kyoto obligations until 2014, when a definitive audit of all countries with a ratified Kyoto agreement was finished.

World Trade Organisation (WTO) and the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) issues were complex, but both needed to be advanced with a practical solution, Mr Groser said.

While he was confident of a “one agreement, two steps” negotiating scenario at Copenhagen, expectations of what could be achieved were left “terribly late” and the real scenario was highly confused.

But an agreement built on key Kyoto concepts with any political or environmental integrity had to be based on domestic policy to counter climate change and an appreciation of the hard facts.

Mr Groser said the US made the mistake in Kyoto of agreeing to targets without a domestic policy base, but was adamant it would not happen again.

“This is not an international beauty contest where some emissions reduction figure is picked out of the air and doubled to international applause from rock stars and other glitterati, only to find out later that no one had a clue how to effect it.”

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The further into this we get this carbon nonsense, the more absurd it gets. We are going to twist ourselves into pretzels, cost ourselves a fortune, and depress economic growth, all in aid of a total load of baloney, as the disclosures of late from East Anglia CRU prove. We must be mad, completely stark, staring raving mad.

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It just gets worse by the minute, I thought Groser would be above this horse trading rubbish. Now we have this "COPENHAGEN CLIMATE SUMMIT IN DISARRAY AFTER 'DANISH TEXT' LEAK"

"The UN Copenhagen climate talks are in disarray today after developing countries reacted furiously to leaked documents that show world leaders will next week be asked to sign an agreement that hands more power to rich countries and sidelines the UN's role in all future climate change negotiations."

"The document was described last night by one senior diplomat as "a very dangerous document for developing countries. It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks".

"A confidential analysis of the text by developing countries also seen by the Guardian shows deep unease over details of the text."

Read it here

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You are so right But its even worse The end game as proposed by Clark and the other evil Socialists is world government who will extract money from the pockets of the 'rich" NZers (read low middle income families) to give to the 'poor" Muslims of the world.

This is where we are heading and the dumb smucks like Key et al are being led by the rings in their noses

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Political correctness amongst the 15,000+ attendees and the attendant fawning media will ignore the irony of this self-serving and bloated spectacle.

That political correctness along with economic forces will prevent discussion on the root cause of stress on the earth’s oceans, air, forests, rivers, and lakes.

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