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NZ POLITICS DAILY: A Bob Jones verdict


The media's reporting of the debate was more coherent and interesting than any of the words that Phil Goff and John Key had to say. 

Bryce Edwards
Tue, 01 Nov 2011

Back in 1974 Bob Jones wrote and published a book entitled "The First Twelve Months - The Achievements of The Third Labour Government".

All 125 pages were blank. Last night, the very satirically minded Imperator Fish blogger, Scott Yorke replicated that technique with a blog post entitled What I Learned From Tonight's Leaders Debate. And of course the blog post was empty. He followed it up later with a less sarcastic attempt, entitled What I Actually Learned From Tonight's Leaders Debate, in which he concluded that ‘All in all it was an utterly forgettable 90 minutes’. 

Leaders debates are always a fascinating part of the election campaign. 
 
But not because of the actual 90 minutes of debate – more because of the screeds of analysis and disagreements that come out afterwards in the commentary.
 
Last night’s first debate has launched all sorts of interesting media reports, opinion pieces and blog posts. The media’s reporting of the debate is actually more coherent and interesting than any of the words that Phil Goff and John Key had to say.
 
For instance, see the following mainstream analysis: Dene Mackenzie’s Key wins but Goff may lift, John Armstrong’s Attack dog lost scent, and Tracy Watkins and Vernon Small’s Goff finds bark in leaders' debate
 
There’s inevitably a huge emphasis on evaluating how ‘won’ the debate, which often seems rather superficial. As I told RNZ’s Morning Report, I thought the winner was likely to be TV2’s Shortland Street which was screening at the same time (listen here). Surely the incredibly bland and boring debate was a huge turn-off for viewers. And according to the Throng website, last night’s ratings were Shortland Street: 536,990 viewers and Election 2011 Leaders Debate: 402,340 viewers. 
 
The format of the TVNZ leaders debate is also being questioned by a number of commentators. See, in particular: Brian Rudman’s Anything but a debate, TV3’s TVNZ debate format under fire, Steven Price’s Horsing around, and Brian Edwards’ Who won, who lost in the first television leaders’ debate? I name the biggest loser
 
However regardless of the format, the leaders debates are always incredibly contrived and fake – that’s their basic nature. Although last night’s one seemed more dull than usual. Both Goff and Key performed very well and came across as competent. But they both sent everyone to sleep with absolutely nothing interesting to say. Where was the dynamism? Where was the vision? Where were the big issues and differences? Hardly anything in the debate that is likely to inspire enthusiasm about either leader. 
 
In this sense, the leaders debate simply epitomized a relatively meaningless election campaign in which the choices on offer are much less significant than many people assume. I’ve written about this today in my first weekly election column for the New Zealand Herald – see: Left right rhetoric masks almost identical policies. In this I argue that although superficially there appears to be a definitive left-right difference on offer in 2011, an analysis of the policy and manifesto promises of the two major parties shows Labour and National are in virtual agreement on something like 99 per cent of the way society is run. Parties have an interest in marketing their policies as being different from one another by magnifying their slight differences with partisan rhetoric, but a most voters realize that the similarities are more significant than the differences.
 
Other important items to read today include: Colin James’ Does National need to turn the Key from bland to bold?, Morgan Godfery’s Native Affairs Kowhiri 11: Te Tai Tonga, and David Farrar’s The minor parties.
 
Bryce Edwards
NZPD Editor (bryce.edwards@otago.ac.nz

Today’s content
 
First leaders debates
Brian Rudman (NZH): Anything but a debate
Steven Price (Media Law Journal): Horsing around
Dene Mackenzie (ODT): Key wins but Goff may lift
John Armstrong (NZH): Attack dog lost scent
Audrey Young (NZH): Goff lands first punch
Rob Hosking (NBR): Labour adopts Karl Rove tactics
Tracy Watkins (Stuff): Goff holds his own in debate
Vernon Small (Dom Post): Goff the narrow winner on points
Tracy Watkins and Vernon Small (Stuff): Goff finds bark in leaders' debate
Andrea Vance (Stuff): Politicians, promises and the L word
Vernon Small (Stuff): Instant refereeing
Barry Soper (Newstalk ZB): Political Report for November 1
Katie Bradford-Crozier (Newstalk ZB): Neither leader claims victory after debate
Kate Chapman (Stuff): Goff defends 'liar' comment
Tim Watkin (Pundit): Election Debate 1: My verdict
Tim Selwyn (Tumeke): TV One Election debate
David Farrar (Kiwiblog): The first debate
John Pagani (Stuff): Dynamic leadership
The Dim Post: TVNZ Debate
The Standard: Debate highlights
Martyn Bradbury (Tumeke): Why Phil Goff won the first debate
Keeping Stock: Goff versus Key
Audio-visual coverage of first leaders debate
 
Native Affairs leaders debates
Morgan Godfery (Maui Street): Native Affairs Kowhiri 11: Te Tai Tonga
Will de Cleene (goNZo FreakpowerBrains Trust): Good times at Te Wharewaka
 
Election - general
Rob Salmond (Pundit): More Bad Poll Reporting
David Farrar (Stuff): The minor parties
Paul Harper and Audrey Young (NZH): Winston not standing in an electorate
Chris Trotter (Press): Labour campaign taps personal memory
Imperator Fish: Brash Blames The Media
 
Electoral referendum
 
National’s economic and asset sales policies
Adam Bennett (NZH): Business NZ sees no economic plan
Andrea Vance (Stuff): National 'lacking a plan'
 
National’s welfare policy
Danya Levy and Kate Chapman (Stuff): Key reveals major benefit revamp
Claire Trevett (NZH): National to confirm welfare policy
 
Labour’s broadcasting policy
Clare Curran (Red Alert): A new public broadcaster
David Farrar (Kiwiblog): Labour’s broadcasting policy
 
Other
Claire Robinson (Spinprofessor): Twitter at its worst. Hearsay and rudeness
Bryce Edwards
Tue, 01 Nov 2011
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